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Some War Widows Oppose Sheehan
cbs ^ | 8-18-05

Posted on 08/18/2005 10:34:05 AM PDT by LouAvul

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To: Mister Baredog; Diva Betsy Ross; Mo1; onyx

I do not at all feel that he is at fault for the death of my husband," says Blankenbecler.

And, Cowan says, it is a common emotion that has all three shaking their heads at how Cindy Sheehan is dealing with grief over the loss of her son, by protesting the war in front of the president's ranch.

Speaking of a cross in a field of hundreds honoring Iraq war dead, Blankenbecler told Cowan, "When she put that cross up, with my husband's name on it, that's when she crossed the line."

Their husbands, they say, would never have protested the war, even if, in those most private of private moments, Mr. Bush may seem to have his doubts.

"He's conflicted because, ya know, he's doing the right thing but then, also, he's got all these loss of lives, which you're going to have if you go to war," Thornton says. "But, being the kind of person he is, that weighs on his mind."


21 posted on 08/18/2005 11:06:30 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: IrishGOP
"Someone please remind me, how many funerals did FDR, Truman, LBJ attend?"

That may be to long ago, perhaps you'd have better luck with Bubba Clinton. You could ask about Somalia for starters.

22 posted on 08/18/2005 11:06:52 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: LouAvul

Somebody please clue me in on what was posted in #15, #16 (back too me) that earned the poster and instant fatal ZOT???


23 posted on 08/18/2005 11:10:40 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Jeff Head

You wrote, "How about this...MOST War Widows Oppose Sheehan? Or, The absolute majority of war widows oppose Sheehan? That would be the truth."

My question to you is on what do you base this subjective comment? Do you have any statistics to prove it? If so, please post the URL for these statistics, if not, please think about posting that it is your opinion making that claim. Otherwise you sound like either a news “journalist” or a politician seeking election.


24 posted on 08/18/2005 11:12:18 AM PDT by retarmy (Been there, done that, and have the scars to prove it. . .)
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To: LouAvul
"SOME??"?????

Only some???

Is that one less than all . . . or one more than one?

What the heck does "some" mean?

Oh...I get it! "Some" is used in the same sense as, ". . . CBS regularly gets some good ratings..."

25 posted on 08/18/2005 11:13:14 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: strange1
That may be to long ago, perhaps you'd have better luck with Bubba Clinton. You could ask about Somalia for starters.

Right, a big fat zero. cbs is just so full of it.

26 posted on 08/18/2005 11:13:25 AM PDT by IrishGOP
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To: IrishGOP

"It's also true the administration would prefer if cameras were not around when the fallen come home in caskets."


Actually, the federal policy of not allowing photos of caskets was signed into law by Bill Clinton.


27 posted on 08/18/2005 11:17:04 AM PDT by whodat57
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To: Buffalo Bob
<<>> I have a visual!
28 posted on 08/18/2005 11:18:06 AM PDT by queenkathy ("Eat a live toad first thing in the morning. Nothing worse can happen to you for the rest of the day)
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To: LouAvul
It's true that Mr. Bush doesn't attend the funerals of those he sends to war, Cowan observes. It's also true the administration would prefer if cameras were not around when the fallen come home in caskets.

yes it's true also, that he doesn't depend on hollywood types to teach him how to bite his lower lip to express sorrow...nor does he attend a funeral for an administration appointee (brown) be seen laughing like a loon, and when spotting a camera, bite the lower lip and wipe away a tear.
He doesn't attend a memorial for a congressman who dies in a plane crash and turn it into a pep rally for his political party.


Doogle
29 posted on 08/18/2005 11:18:37 AM PDT by Doogle (8th AF...4077thTFW....408MMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: Mister Baredog

I would have written "some" as well.

If you say "most," you dang well be able to prove it.

In the story's lede, it does say "MANY" instead of some.


30 posted on 08/18/2005 11:20:02 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Monkeys are flying outta my butt!

That's what I was referring to...I must have created something dubious with my little keyboard...


31 posted on 08/18/2005 11:20:11 AM PDT by queenkathy ("Eat a live toad first thing in the morning. Nothing worse can happen to you for the rest of the day)
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To: Howlin

That is pretty good actually.


32 posted on 08/18/2005 11:23:14 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: retarmy
The comment is not based on subjectivity. It is based on objective reasoning which is to say...common sense.

I believe any objective reasoning regarding the issue will support the thesis. Bush is the President...he won the election with a majority of the voters...an election where this very issue was a big part of the decision.

Bush, as president, has taken us to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. The force fighting that war is made up of an all volunteer force. Those fighting have volunteered and are volunteering.

Erego...clearly the vast majority of that force must support the war and Bush else they would not volunteer. Ergo...the majority of their parents and spouses support the effort as well.

Parents and spouses have (in most cases) significant impact and influence on an individual's major life's decisions.

In the case of Casey Sheehan that was not true...as evidenced by his mother's spectacle. But I do not for an instant, based on objective reason, believe that her's is a majority position.

33 posted on 08/18/2005 11:25:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

I don't believe her position is the majority either, but you can't just assume it is in a news article.

This article uses BOTH some and many to describe the number who oppose Sheehan.

That is good enough for me, and it is exactly what I would have done. I would never write "most" unless I have some statistics and polls of military families to back me up.


34 posted on 08/18/2005 11:33:39 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: LouAvul
I see the crosses for the slain, but didn't any Jewish soldiers die in Iraq?
35 posted on 08/18/2005 11:33:57 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: conservativeharleyguy
You wrote, "Casey Sheehan’s memory as a warrior is besmirched by her words and actions, the world of his comrades-in-arms is weakened by her words and actions. . ."

As a two-tour combat veteran, I have to disagree with you. Casey Sheehan's memory as a soldier will always be held high in the hearts and minds of his fellow soldiers and they will remember him for his actions. The “world of his comrades-in-arms” you mentioned is a world that is composed every combat veteran, regardless of which conflict we were in, and that world is based on duty, honor, and service.

The words and actions of those who are not combat veterans and who do not, or cannot understand the meaning of duty, honor, and service can never tarnish that world, nor can they take away from any of us who we are or that which we have accomplished.

That world has been forged in the fires of hell, laid on the anvil of truth, pounded true with the hammer of adversity, and cooled with the blood and the tears of our comrades. No, his warrior spirit will still abide with his comrades, unblemished, undaunted, and undefeated.

36 posted on 08/18/2005 11:42:46 AM PDT by retarmy (Been there, done that, and have the scars to prove it. . .)
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To: xcamel
instant fatal ZOT??? LOL, I thought I smelled smoking ZOT. I was on another forum and it's so funny to see a bunch of heated responses to a smoking ZOT hole.
37 posted on 08/18/2005 11:53:54 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: whodat57
Facts will never get in the way of Cindy.
38 posted on 08/18/2005 12:05:30 PM PDT by IrishGOP
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To: rwfromkansas
Polls are pretty flimsy IMHO. Objective reasoning and a commitment to the values associated with it are, at least IMHO, a better fuel.

But that's just my opinion...you are certainly entitled to your own in such a matter without any rancor from me over it.

39 posted on 08/18/2005 12:13:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Primetimedonna

Well "dogkojo" is an appropriate name for the mad-dog DUers out there, don't you think? lol! At least this one named themself appropriately.


40 posted on 08/18/2005 1:26:49 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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