Russia and China launch joint military exercise, make USA nervous

Pravda ^ | 08/18/2005 | Ivan Shmelev

[ChristianDefender]

Ok... If WAR will start between China and Taiwan... most likely Russia will back China and the United States will back Taiwan...

Who do you think will win the war?...

I dont know recently how capable the Russian military to fight after the Soviet era..

[ChristianDefender]

Yeah but they do make much of noisy hum about how powerful they are.

...the only person im afraid of in China is Wong Fei Hung...sarcasm//

if China will challenge the U.S. for war, they might experienced an internal struggle considering the growing population of Christians in China who i think would be a loyal American ally.

[coconutt2000]

I can see it now....

Headline:

China Invades Russia: Russia Declared A Province In Rebellion

[twinself]

Russia with its Soviet-style army would never dare to face the USA openly. They would most probably support the Chinese with cheap weapons and raw materials (oil, crudes). And of course politically - by saying they are neutral on that conflict. Both Russia and China oppose unipolar post-commie world vision. In my opinion for the moment China - wants to show its importance and growing role in the region but I seriously doubt that Hong-Kong scenario is likely to be repeated in the nearest future. China would have to change internally first and attract Taiwan by means of economic bonds and limited autonomy at first, then swallow it all. Which will finally happen, of course.

[ChristianDefender]

Russia with its Soviet-style army would never dare to face the USA openly.

...im quite relieved to hear this from you... but i cant still ignore Russia's military might, just like the U.S. there are some stuff that they dont show us...

I just hope that before anything like this will happen... all muslim fundamentalists and Mecca too were already destroyed... muslims will love to see infidels fighting each other... my goodness im getting too far..

[Finalapproach29er]

Russia and China launch joint military exercise, make USA nervous
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GO FOR IT, Comrades!

[maestro]

?....Russia and China launch joint military exercise, make... "RISING-SUN-FLAG-JAPAN"... nervous?

/Taiwan?

[twinself]

Or rather headline from Pravda in year 2023.

CHINESE TERRORISTS ATTACK!!!

A harvester peacefully working in one of the grain fields near our Eastern border was treacherously attacked by a group of masked Chinese terrorists. The harvester immediately answered with heavy bombardment of the nearby Chinese village and peacefully returned to its mother-base. All brave peasants were rewarded by their general with Red Star medal. :)

[twinself]

Indeed. Who else might it be targeted to scare? Russians practice neutrality and and Chinese killing as many rebels as possible.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

if China will challenge the U.S. for war, they might experienced an internal struggle considering the growing population of Christians in China who i think would be a loyal American ally

Chinese Christians need to be loyal citizens of China. Christians in China have received a lot of persecution from the Chinese government because the government seems to have the mistaken idea that Christianity does not involve submission to the God-ordained institution of government as taught in Romans 13:1-4:

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Of course if a law of China conflicts with a law of God, the Chinese Christian would have to obey God rather than man (Acts 5:29) But that's the same rule that applies to American Christians or Christians anywhere. The HQ of the church is in heaven , not the USA, China or anywhere else.(Matthew 28:18, Acts 2:34-36)

Of course it would be better for all Chinese if the red regime would fade away and be replaced with liberal government that would promote a free China, strong, prosperous and peaceful, neither threatening the world nor allowing China to be subjected to chaos and exploitation from outsiders. But it's not the Christian's job to be a revolutionary, but rather a good and loyal citizen.

[coconutt2000]

haha... but seriously, the Chinese justification for the occupation of Tibet is that one of the Mongol Empires that absorbed China included Tibet.

If the Mongol empires serve as the Chinese definition of what China's natural borders are, most of Asia, including Russia are all provinces in open rebellion.

On the other hand, China doesn't have any real claim to Taiwan, except that the dominant ethnic group there are Chinese. So what we have here are two logics for Chinese conquest. Historical borders of Empires of which China was a part of, and an inherent right to rule over all ethnic Chinese, regardless of historical borders.

[twinself]

Mongol empire war-time borders in 1241 strechted to Legnica (Western Poland). Ooooff, luckily I live about 60 kilometers West from there. ;)

[Fishing-guy]

Your grandkids might see the Chinese knocking at the front door, but not this life time. Every race has their own versions of Monroe Doctrine and Manifest Destiny, and the Chinese are no different.

[coconutt2000]

Start learning Chinese...

[twinself]

I already did.

[coconutt2000]

haha... and to think if the Chinese ever do go Imperial on Asia, it won't be a laughing matter.

[twinself]

Definitely - but in the meantime... I Like Chinese

from Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Album

(spoken) The world today is absolutely cracked. With nuclear bombs to blow us all sky high. There's fools and idiots sitting on the trigger. It's depressing, and it's senseless, and that's why...

(singing) I like chinese, I like chinese, They only come up to you knees, Yet they're always friendly and they're ready to to please.

I like chinese, I like chinese, There's nine hundred million of them in the world today, You'd better learn to like them, that's what I say.

I like chinese, I like chinese, They come from a long way overseas, But they're cute, and they're cuddly, and they're ready to please.

I like chinese food, The waiters never are rude, Think the many things they've done to impress, There's maoism, taoism, eging and chess.

I like chinese, I like chinese, I like their tiny little trees, Their zen, their ping-pong, their ying and yang-eze.

I like chinese thought, The wisdom that Confusious taught, If Darwin is anything to shout about, The chinese will survive us all without any doubt.

So, I like chinese, I like chinese, They only come up to you knees, Yet they're wise, and they're witty, and they're ready to please

Wo, I chumba run, Wo, I chumba run, Wo, I chumba run, Ne hamma, Ne hamma, Ne hamma chi chen.

I like chinese, I like chinese, They're food is guaranteed to please, A fourteen, a seven, a nine and li-chese

I like chinese, I like chinese, I like their tiny little trees, Their zen, their ping-pong, their yin and yang-eze...

[wolfcreek]

Personally, I don't think they can relate well enough to reach any common goals. They really have never gotten along in the past, can't see it happening now.

[twinself]

Common strategic goal is to annoy the US without sticking their necks too far. Short term goals - economic ties. Long term goals - keeping the status quo for Russians, dominating the East Asia region for Chinese.

[Petey139]

Russian weaponry isn't that reliable as we all saw with the sub incident.