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Posted on 08/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by woodb01
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
"You are a Marxist with a poor memory. That is a typical Marxist response, as is your first quip attacking me as a creationist. Standard Marxist tactics"
Ah, the *Marxist* attack. Beautiful.
"(It is the result of your obvious connection to zealotry in defending of marijuana.)"
Another stunning comeback! Your intellect is truly staggering!
I said you were a creationist, I didn't say you were a Christian. Though being an Atheist and a creationist is not very consistent; not that you have ever been. If you don't believe in a natural process that guided the evolution of life, your only other choice is a designer. That is not atheism. That is creationism.
Let me clue people in; Dashboard believes that morality is a delusion and that might makes right. He thinks he is one of the supermen who can force others to do his bidding. He also attacks anybody who disagrees with him as a *Marxist* because he hasn't a clue as to what Marxism is. His namesake, the real Sir Francis Dashboard, led a life of decadence. He mocked the morality of the religionists, just as this Dashwood does.
"No it is not. No missing link, no evidence. Dr. Leaky never found any. Humans did not evolve from apes, nor is there evidence, as of yet, of common ancestry, none."
Your willful ignorance is only matched by your dishonesty.
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posted on
08/16/2005 10:04:02 PM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: CarolinaGuitarman
It would acknowledge the fact that evolution has never been about the origin of life. If a scientific theory is not true in every instance, can it be said with any certainty that it is true in any instance? If Evolution cannot explain the origin of every species, why are you so certain that it true about the origin of any species? All for now. I'm arf to bed |-)zzz
To: GSHastings
"f a scientific theory is not true in every instance, can it be said with any certainty that it is true in any instance? If Evolution cannot explain the origin of every species, why are you so certain that it true about the origin of any species?"
Because it's scope doesn't include the origin of life, and never has? How difficult is this for you to comprehend? It doesn't explain quantum physics either. Is that a deficiency in the theory?
483
posted on
08/16/2005 10:07:53 PM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: GSHastings
"But the results would have been identical, each and every step of he way."
No, they wouldn't. They were random.
484
posted on
08/16/2005 10:09:51 PM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: CarolinaGuitarman
If you don't believe in a natural process that guided the evolution of life, your only other choice is a designer.False dichotomy is an informal fallacy in logic. I choose not to decide and I have other choices...
I've gone through this type of banter with you before, you are an a-hole Marxist, eff off mofo...
To: Hendrix
There is no specific definition for "scientific theory" in the dictionary. Enough already! From the first & original 1828 Webster's Dictionary:
THE'ORY, n. [L. theory; Gr. to see or contemplate.]
1. Speculation; a doctrine or scheme of things, which terminates in speculation or contemplation, without a view to practice. It is here taken in an unfavorable sense, as implying something visionary.
2. An exposition of the general principles of any science; as the theory of music.
3. The science distinguished from the art; as the theory and practice of medicine.
4. The philosophical explanation of phenomena, either physical or moral; as Lavoisier's theory of combustion; Smith's theory of moral sentiments.
Theory is distinguished from hypothesis thus; a theory is founded on inferences drawn from principles which have been established on independent evidence; a hypothesis is a proposition assumed to account for certain phenomena, and has no other evidence of its truth, than that it affords a satisfactory explanation of those phenomena. (emphasis mine)
Even before Darwin; even before the ToE (that's not exactly true - there were Newtonian evolutionists too), there was a rather firm understanding of the meaning of 'theory' when used in a scientific context, as you can plainly see from Mr. Webster's efforts on the matter. Why you cannot come to grips with this simple understanding is beyond me.
Now, you've irritated not only every evolutionist on this board, but you've irritated this flinty old Presbyterian to boot. And, to what end? If you feel you have to bicker over the meaning of 'theory', an understanding that has existed literally for hundreds of years, then I cannot see the point of any further communication between you and anyone else on this board.
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posted on
08/16/2005 10:19:39 PM PDT
by
YHAOS
(Western morons are more dangerous than Islamic lunatics)
To: narby
A very ill informed insult...You define insult much differently than I do... I define insult as a physical maiming, a severe one.
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A very ill informed insult from someone who has no idea who he's addressing...
What makes you think I care who I am talking to? Was I talking to you?
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...and what their reasoning for accepting evolution
Accepting evolution like one would accept Yeshua, maybe?
Give it a rest, you are no match for me, bootcamp...
To: narby
It's useless triyng to "discuss" with Dataman. Dataman will willfully ignore facts that don't correspond to what he wants to argue. When that isn't enough, he'll simply lie outright.
488
posted on
08/16/2005 10:22:16 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Sir Francis Dashwood
"False dichotomy is an informal fallacy in logic. I choose not to decide and I have other choices..."
Please enlighten us, what are these other choices?
"I've gone through this type of banter with you before, you are an a-hole Marxist, eff off mofo..."
Ah, the totality of your argument. Ad hominem.
Your bullying only works when people take you seriously. I don't. I already you know you as the arrogant, amoral, SOB that you are. That is why you are so amusing :)
489
posted on
08/16/2005 10:23:06 PM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: TomSmedley
Does the end product look more like an accident or an artifact?
What would an "accident" look like? Be specific.
490
posted on
08/16/2005 10:24:05 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: woodb01
How about this, ASSUMING that through some miracle of spontaneous accidental "evolution" a one-celled amoeba just "happened" to start existing
Evolution says no such thing.
If you don't understand the fundamental concepts, you can't be expected to carry any credibility when criticizing it.
491
posted on
08/16/2005 10:25:08 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
Because it's scope doesn't include the origin of life, and never has? How difficult is this for you to comprehend? Pretty difficult, actually. I believe that the very first living thing was a species, bless it's little heart. Don't you kind of feel sorry for it, all alone out there with no explanation )-;
It doesn't explain quantum physics either. Is that a deficiency in the theory?
No. That would be an imaginary deficiency. There are enough real deficiencies to worry about. :-)
To: GSHastings
Does it say, *The Origin of Life*? No, just species.How's this for the title then?
"Evolution-The Origin of All Species Except One, And Don't Think That I'm Explaining That One, Because I'm NOT!"
I'll have you know I nearly ruined my keyboard I was laughing so hard when I read this, considering I was drinking something at the time :-)
493
posted on
08/16/2005 10:43:43 PM PDT
by
csense
To: woodb01
494
posted on
08/16/2005 10:56:40 PM PDT
by
Bellflower
(A new day is Coming!)
To: Dimensio
See there you go. He asks a question of what the end product look more like an accident or an artifact, and then you cut in and demand what would an "accident" look like? Be specific
Well I'll cut in too then. An accident.. a train wreck, would look something like you! ha ha ha haha!
Now again you keep running off and never answer any questions. Whats up with that?
495
posted on
08/16/2005 11:00:26 PM PDT
by
mordo
To: CarolinaGuitarman
To: GSHastings
I believe that the very first living thing was a species, bless it's little heart. Don't you kind of feel sorry for it, all alone out there with no explanation )-;
Do you have an argument against evolution that isn't based purely in semantic games?
497
posted on
08/16/2005 11:18:20 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Stuff it homo...
So you don't actually have any real arguments against the theory of evolution, then.
498
posted on
08/16/2005 11:23:14 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: woodb01
He didn't claim that evolution was science. He's claiming that in order for you to legislate that intelligent design is right, and evolution is wrong, and ignore any scientific evidence, and that ID is science, then the word of science holds no weight.
To: GSHastings
"Evolution-The Origin of All Species Except One, And Don't Think That I'm Explaining That One, Because I'm NOT!"
Just following along here. Great humor in your truth. Pretty much sums a lot of it up too.
500
posted on
08/16/2005 11:42:20 PM PDT
by
mordo
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