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Pfaltzgraff plant to close (250 Jobs Lost)
York Daily Record ^ | Saturday, August 13, 2005 | ANDRÉA MARIA CECIL

Posted on 08/13/2005 8:34:35 AM PDT by Willie Green

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1 posted on 08/13/2005 8:34:35 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

This is really sad. I love their products, and you can't convince me that Chinese Pfalzgraff will be the same quality as US made.


2 posted on 08/13/2005 8:39:07 AM PDT by JHL
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> ... and you can't convince me that Chinese Pfalzgraff
> will be the same quality as US made.

Won't necessarily be China. Japan is still a big player
in the dinnerware market, and has made china for Lenox
and Tiffany, for example.

If we actually had a competent press, they might have
explored why this is happening, and what the US needs to
do to halt this trend and improve our competitive posture.


3 posted on 08/13/2005 8:47:14 AM PDT by Boundless (Imagine if Fox had a news channel)
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To: JHL

Agree, bummer


4 posted on 08/13/2005 8:50:52 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Willie Green

Now instead of changing the topic to you, just posting a company that has hired 250 people would be more productive.


5 posted on 08/13/2005 8:54:47 AM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: Boundless
If we actually had a competent press, they might have explored why this is happening, and what the US needs to do to halt this trend and improve our competitive posture.

EXACTLY.

6 posted on 08/13/2005 8:57:18 AM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
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To: ex-snook
just posting a company that has hired 250 people would be more productive.
Is anyone stopping you?
7 posted on 08/13/2005 9:01:32 AM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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To: Gabz

Quote: "I have great confidence that they are going to find other work."


What a stupid a** remark. Of course they will get another job-they have to to eat. Mcdee's and Wal mart are hiring everywhere.


8 posted on 08/13/2005 9:02:03 AM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: superiorslots

I understand what you are saying, but I really believe the guy wa referring to finding jobs similar to the ones they currently have.


9 posted on 08/13/2005 9:04:56 AM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
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Gillette Wyoming is begging for entry level workers in good paying jobs. Mining, coal bed methane etc. These are damn good paying jobs. They advertised in the paper during Sturgis SD MC rally.


10 posted on 08/13/2005 9:11:50 AM PDT by Sterco
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To: Boundless
Won't necessarily be China. Japan is still a big player in the dinnerware market, and has made china for Lenox and Tiffany, for example.

And Japan's Noritake (http://www.noritake.co.jp/eng/) is not only an established maker of fine china, but has also expanded in high technology, and is now also expanding into nanotechnology.

11 posted on 08/13/2005 9:12:35 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: lewislynn
"Is anyone stopping you?"

Can't find any companies hiring 250. I'm sure all the posters of job growth figures must be able to put a name on those figures. A lot in your area, right?

12 posted on 08/13/2005 9:15:54 AM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: Boundless

Are you willing to pay twice as much for dinneware produced in the USA? In the end, it all comes down to $$$. Will I spend $500 for a set of dinneware made in America when I can get a different set of equal quality for $200?



13 posted on 08/13/2005 9:16:04 AM PDT by jess35
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To: Willie Green

Actually, I just bought a fine set of Mikasa formals. I don't mind buying from a foreign country--as long as it's a FREE country, and our ally, not a declared enemy, a communist dictatorship like China.


14 posted on 08/13/2005 9:20:14 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Willie Green

Very sad.

NY is no place to do business today. I doubt this reality will be apparent to the electorate however.

They will end up like Massachusetts times a thousand if the rats are allowed to finish running the state into the ground.


15 posted on 08/13/2005 9:22:03 AM PDT by mmercier (.)
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To: Willie Green
I also saw a manufacturing shutdown in South Carolina due to imports this week. From the Tuscaloosa News:

Textile maker announces 350 layoffs

August 12, 2005

A textile maker in the Pee Dee will layoff about 350 workers because cheap imports from China have hurt business, company officials said.

Greenville-based Delta Mills said it would close a Wallace plant in Marlboro County and the Pamplico plant in Florence County during the next few months, Pamplico plant general manager Billy Prosser said Thursday.

"The decision to exit the synthetics business and close these two facilities was a painful and difficult decision," Delta Mills President W.F. Garret said. "However, due to the impact of foreign imports, our capacity utilization for this part of our business continues to be at or below 60 percent and sales prices continue to decline."

Both plants have strong ties to the rural communities.

About 80 percent of the Pamplico plant's 203 employees have been with the company for more than 20 years, Prosser said.

"I've been here for 35 years," Prosser said. "This is the first time in my life that I'll be looking for a job."

Jerry Tucker, human resources manager at the Wallace plant that employees 146, said about half of those have been with the company for 25 years or more.

The company is working with state agencies to help laid off workers find work, but it will be difficult, Tucker said. Delta Mills was the largest employer in Pamplico, a town with a population of about 1,100.

South Carolina lost 30,700 jobs from 2000 to 2004. The state lost 67,800 manufacturing jobs paying $38,400 in current dollars, but gained 37,100 jobs in services and construction paying $30,300, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

But job growth this year has been scant. Marlboro County expects to gain 420 jobs within two years, said Butch Mills, the county's economic development director. The county had the state's second highest unemployment rate in June.

At least one local school district is concerned, too.

Steve Quick, superintendent of Florence School District 2, said Delta Mills has always been one of the largest tax contributors.

"When I came to Pamplico, half of our operational expenses came from Delta Mills. Last year it was down to 10 percent," he said. "But we've seen this coming, and we've made up for the lost money in other ways."

Quick said there also will be other impacts.

"It's certainly tragic for the families," he said. "We'll see an increase in the number of students on reduced or free lunches, and we'll see a number of students leave the district as their parents find work in other areas."


16 posted on 08/13/2005 9:24:40 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: jess35
Are you willing to pay twice as much for dinneware produced in the USA? In the end, it all comes down to $$$. Will I spend $500 for a set of dinneware made in America when I can get a different set of equal quality for $200?

I know many ladies who collect what appears to be perfectly functional dinnerware for the purpose of display. I don't think price comes all that much into play in such cases.

17 posted on 08/13/2005 9:29:29 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Boundless
Japan is still a big player in the dinnerware market, and has made china for Lenox and Tiffany, for example.

We had a thread on the Lenox closure back in October, 2001:
Lenox layoffs to begin 2 weeks before Christmas

Coincidently, there was an update to this story just this past week:

Lenox furnace scrapped

By C.M. Mortimer
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, August 3, 2005

Another chapter in Western Pennsylvania's glassmaking history will disappear soon, as the furnace once used to make crystal for the White House is being dismantled and will be sold for scrap.

After trying for more than three years to lure a glassmaker into the shuttered Lenox glass manufacturing plant in Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland County economic development officials say they expect to advertise bids later this month for the renovation of about 53,000 square feet of the former glassmaking plant, in hopes of enticing a retail business.

"It's (the furnace) going to be sold for scrap, there's no use for it," said Larry J. Larese, executive director of the Westmoreland County Economic Development Corp. He said workers are currently breaking up the furnace, and plan to backfill a pit about eight feet below floor level.

"We were trying to get a glassmaker in there. ... But glass is struggling everywhere in the United States," Larese said.

The news follows the demise of several glass operations in the region.

Anchor Glass Container Corp. abruptly closed its glass bottling plant in South Connellsville in November, putting about 300 people out of work. In late November, 109-year-old Glenshaw Glass Co. closed its doors in Shaler, Allegheny County, putting another 300 out of work. In December, Houze Glass Co. in Point Marion, Fayette County, closed its doors, putting 57 people out of work.

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18 posted on 08/13/2005 9:58:43 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: jess35

> Are you willing to pay twice as much for dinneware produced in the USA?

Did. The majority of our formal china is Lenox, almost all
of it US made. The rest is Tiffany (outsourced to Japan,
probably Noritake).

Lenox tip: you can save a bundle if you live near a
factory outlet store. What is sold, at a discount, as
"seconds" often is actually re-marked 1st quality. And
even the actual seconds often have irrelevant defects.


19 posted on 08/13/2005 10:19:00 AM PDT by Boundless
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has anyone noticed the wonderful business model created by Basset furniture? they opened stores called Basset Direct, they take orders and fill them within 2 months. Their plants are humming and the product is great. Do you think others might try this? Companies that quit don't want to be in business. They sold their name and closed their doors. Watch for similar actions by GM.


20 posted on 08/13/2005 10:26:27 AM PDT by q_an_a
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