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The New GOP Betrays America
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, Aug. 11, 2005 | Diane Alden

Posted on 08/10/2005 8:43:22 PM PDT by Psion

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To: Bushbacker

Like I said before, I think the horse is dead!


521 posted on 08/17/2005 4:36:19 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: mastergibs; The Foolkiller; Stellar Dendrite; swampfox98
Calm down mastergibs, you need to listen to Rush instead of Savage. Rush will let you hear what you want to hear. Just close your eyes and keep repeating:

Republicans good, Democrats bad
Republicans good, Democrats bad
Republicans good, Democrats bad
Republicans good, Democrats bad
Republicans good, Democrats bad
Republicans good, Democrats bad

Bush good, Kerry bad
Bush good, Kerry bad
Bush good, Kerry bad
Bush good, Kerry bad
Bush good, Kerry bad
Bush good, Kerry bad

McCain good, Hillary bad
McCain good, Hillary bad
McCain good, Hillary bad
McCain good, Hillary bad
McCain good, Hillary bad
McCain good, Hillary bad

Don't you feel your blood pressure dropping?

I did detect a little heresy on your part when you wrote "I enjoy his rants on the Islamo fascist..." In the words of George W. Bush, "Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind." (President's Eid al-Fitr Greeting to Muslims around the World,December 4, 2002)

I think some form of penance is required, who about for one month, each time you bow to Crawford and pray to your God you shout "Hail Barbara" 50 times?
522 posted on 08/17/2005 4:52:00 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: mastergibs; fallujah-nuker; montag813; swampfox98
He is angry that he has no effect on the body politic

Huh? Yeah, he has "no effect" yet he's had 3 best sellers in a row, his latest one has been on the NYT best seller list for 18 weeks in a row. Also he has 10 million listeners. Where do you think the rumblings of border control came from? Savage has been talking about the border for years. Now there are all sorts of johnny come latelys in regards to border control.
523 posted on 08/17/2005 5:59:59 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
"Huh? Yeah, he has "no effect" yet he's had 3 best sellers in a row, his latest one has been on the NYT best seller list for 18 weeks in a row. Also he has 10 million listeners..."

Very good point. If these guys have "no effect on the body politic" why do the RINO's spend so much time attacking them?
524 posted on 08/17/2005 6:21:33 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: fallujah-nuker
Call me anything you want, RINO and Democrat are off limits friend. Better that you slept with my mother.
LOL. Alright, I may be a little passionate in my dislike for Savage, but for all thats Holy call me a Fascist first. Being Called a RINO is akin to calling me Al Sharpton.
525 posted on 08/17/2005 6:49:03 PM PDT by mastergibs (Stand up, tell them how you feel and then smack them in the chin.)
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To: mastergibs
Sounds like you've calmed down since this morning?
526 posted on 08/17/2005 6:54:42 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: mastergibs

"You tell me if you would have the fortitude and guts to say in a public setting the very things that spew from Savage's mouth. Do you think a single living soul could get elected to office in this country if they took his platform and incoherent rants and ventured across the country?"

I take it you're referring to the Presidential Office. Otherwise the existence of US Rep. Tom Tancredo and US Rep. Duncan Hunter already would have you proved wrong. They have no problem saying the same stuff Savage does in public.


527 posted on 08/17/2005 8:01:05 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Free Trade = Economic Treason)
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To: mastergibs

"Call me anything you want, RINO and Democrat are off limits friend. Better that you slept with my mother.
LOL. Alright, I may be a little passionate in my dislike for Savage, but for all thats Holy call me a Fascist first. Being Called a RINO is akin to calling me Al Sharpton."

If you don't want people to think you're a RINO, then you shouldn't engage in RINO-speak such as:

"If he was not Jewish I would think he came off the Third Reich Ship that went astray on its Voyage to Argentina in the 40's." and...

"He is what I envision it must have been like for the Nazi propaganda machine in WWII. He is the new Clan." and...

"He could not carry GW's lunch sack, he couldn't even carry Ted Kennedy's for goodness sake."


528 posted on 08/17/2005 8:47:15 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Free Trade = Economic Treason)
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To: Bushbacker

"Nothing like a little anti-Christian bigotry, eh, when alll else fails?"

Eh? You shouldn't consume alcohol before getting on FR...or were you in a hurry and didn't read the whole post. It was quite obvious I was referring to the Muslims. Don't Drink and Freep!


529 posted on 08/17/2005 9:05:13 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Free Trade = Economic Treason)
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To: neutronsgalore

You shouldn't consume alcohol before getting on FR...or were you in a hurry and didn't read the whole post. It was quite obvious I was referring to the Muslims. Don't Drink and Freep

_____I re-read it---and you'e correct. I misread it. Sorry.



530 posted on 08/18/2005 5:57:09 AM PDT by Bushbacker (f----u)
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To: fallujah-nuker

Yes, my apologies if I have offended you in any way. Even the best family's have disagreements. And the vast majority at Free Republic share the same goals. I will attempt to tone done my BS.


531 posted on 08/18/2005 8:41:11 AM PDT by mastergibs (Stand up, tell them how you feel and then smack them in the chin.)
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To: Bushbacker

Apology accepted. Glad the misunderstanding is cleared up.


532 posted on 08/18/2005 7:28:11 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Free Trade = Economic Treason)
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To: mastergibs

"Now its Mexican-o's fleeing from a corrupt and putrid government that rewards only its own aristocracy while ignoring the conditions of the vast majority of its own citizens."

It can afford to ignore their people, because we have the safety valve of open borders that allows people to run instead of fight for change. Making that very same open borders policy a significant contributing factor to the continued corruption among, and indifference to the people by, the Mexican govt.


533 posted on 08/18/2005 7:31:56 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Free Trade = Economic Treason)
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To: A. Pole; Publius
You wrote "Then more money should be put in railways!"

Under President Eisenhower we launched a number of large infrastructure projects, the Interstate Highway System and St. Lawrence Seaway being two good examples. The government spends a larger share of GDP today but I see very little accomplished with the money. I think that your idea is very sound and a far better use of taxpayer dollars than, for example sending two billion dollars a year to Egypt.

A few weeks after I joined Free Republic there was a thread out upgrading a railway line that parallels Interstate 81 between Knoxville, Tennessee and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Poster "Publius" posted a good reply about something about "The Steel Interstate" on the thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1278708/replies?c=24

The route was about 600 miles and the upgrade would cost about 2.3 billion dollars, as a comparison we spent 2.8 billion dollars building a sewage system for Cairo. The major cost would have been double tracking, plus some track realignments to raise the speed in some areas. I don't think it would have involved electrification of the line though, I do not know what that costs since we have not done it on a large scale.

I had suggested in an earlier post that we could have trans that would ferry vehicles across the country, I found a site that has a picture of something similar, I think in the Alps:
http://journalism.wlu.edu/rrarchive/11-18-2004/i-81.htm

There was also a thread about fuel costs hitting truckers in the wallet posted yesterday:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465999/posts
Several people who posted on the thread had personal experience with this, at least one had a husband who drives truck. It will also show up in the price of everything that arrives by truck, so it could hit everyones wallet.

I think projects like the I-81 railway upgrade could help with this, and if we stopped sending money to Egypt and spent it on this instead we could end up sending less money to Saudi Arabia too.

As for Amtrak i don't see them as a very competent. In the early nineties the brought over a high speed train from Sweden, and another one from Germany, they were looking for "off the shelf" technology. The Swedish model even tilted so it could run at higher speeds on curves. After evaluating both models, Amtrak selected a French design that was not even tested here! it apparently is successful over in France. And to boot, they had it redesigned to tilt, in France it runs on dedicated lines. And that train has had many problems ever since.

I've never ridden on an Amtrak train but I have ridden on a number in the Osaka region of Japan, every one was electric by the way. We do not have the same population density to make a similar network pay, the ones in Osaka are all private and make a profit. Some were run by the government before and lost staggering amounts of money.

If it will be a given that the government will spend about 20% of the GDP, it should at least spend a tenth of that on infrastructure. Highways can use it to, some parts of the Interstate Highways can stand improvement, for example some tunnels like the Eisenhower Tunnel on I-70, and better bridges, like a high level bridge on I-90 at Vantage, Washington instead of the present bridge with a 90 degree bend on the eastern side of the Columbia River. Remember the I-40 bridge across the Arkansas River that was knocked down by a barge a few years ago?

Much of the old US Highway system could be upgraded too, more overpasses and bypasses so you can drive long distance without stopping and slowing down so often.
534 posted on 08/19/2005 8:52:43 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: Psion

"True believers ask me, "Would you rather have Kerry or Hillary in office?" That is no choice. It is a false choice, a choice I will no longer make. There comes a time, in good conscience, when you simply can't support the lesser of two evils or the evil of two lessers. Nor can you support the party to which they belong, particularly when they are trying to destroy everything you believe in."

Best thing I have ever heard and it's spot on.

Kerry, Hillary, Bush or Frist

Not a hell of alot of difference when it comes down to Constitutional Government


535 posted on 08/19/2005 8:56:06 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: jveritas

No it's stupid to continue to do what you've always done expecting a different outcome.

That is sheer insanity.


536 posted on 08/19/2005 8:58:05 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Psion
Mark for later....too tired to muster any more outrage tonight...the OBL sock-puppets got all my vitriol...now I'm spent!
537 posted on 08/19/2005 9:02:51 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Leatherneck_MT
"Kerry, Hillary, Bush or Frist

Not a hell of alot of difference when it comes down to Constitutional Government"

RINO-crats or Democrats, whats the difference other than who rides in the limousines for the next four years? May as well be Roundheads and Cavaliers.
538 posted on 08/19/2005 9:13:57 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: Itzlzha

"the OBL sock-puppets got all my vitriol...now I'm spent!"

Then by all means do not forget to check out post number 35 on this thread, and follow from there:<)


539 posted on 08/19/2005 9:16:57 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: RightWhale
They have no idea what a tax revenue windfall they could realize for the Shining City on the Potomac if they could just let their people go into space on development and commerce.

Screw that, lie to them and when the capability is exploited and the colonists and industries established, declare independence on the original model with some minor changes to the BOR to make it idiot and criminal proof (i.e. "construing the 2nd to mean anything other than an individual right" gets you jettisoned out an airlock or thrown into the organics vats. Same for proposing an income tax, central bank, etc...)

540 posted on 08/19/2005 10:15:34 PM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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