Dog Rips Child From Mother Arms (Rottweiller Kills Girl)

KABC TV 7, Los Angeles ^ | August 2, 2004

[liberty_lvr]

Unfortunately for you, a resume like that doesn't count for crap around here. Fat-asses who sit in front of their computers all day obviously know FAR more than you do about your life's pursuit...I mean, after all, they can just look it up on the Innterrrnet and become instant experts. I know, because after 30 years of working in aviation, I was flamed on an aviation-related thread as having a "thin resume" and generally not knowing anything about it. I'm convinced the majority of the Freepers anymore are snotty teens and young adults who don't have squat for life experience, but know everything about everything because they can just look it up on the Innterrrnet.

FWIW, I agree with you completely. My breed of choice is German Shepherds; I have had several throughout my life including some that came from rescue shelters with pretty rough backgrounds. They are incredibly intelligent and caring animals (not to mention beautiful) but I have been unfairly criticized by neighbors and family in the past for keeping "attack" dogs. I guess some folks are just not dog people and will always fear what they don't understand. Too bad, they're missing alot of fulfillment in their lives.

[patriciaruth]

Yes, you expanded on what I was trying to succinctly bring to this discussion.

What you have said in no way contradicts what I have been trying to warn people about.

[rabidralph]

LOL! Thanks, that made my day!

[Shyla]

I raise wolves. The are not the "Big Bad Wolf" that society makes them out to be.

I have never been threatend by them or felt nervous around them. They are sweet and loving and have accepted new animals in their pack with a total lack of violent behavior, only curiosity and acceptance.

[Travis McGee]

The rottie is not the "Alpha male" of the pack, the owners are the "Alphas." He is just the top dog in the household, UNDER the owners.

But the owners (the g-parents) were gone. The dog was disoriented and upset, I'm guessing. (See 151.) Here is a "new owner" with a new "top dog" (the baby) getting all of the love and affection, leaving the rottie as third fiddle. Just getting kibbles and water and ignored, while the baby is showered with attention.

Peering into the rotties "thought process," I'd say the rottie was extremely upset at the "revolution" which happened in the household with the "new owner" and the "new top dog" (the baby."

This was a recipe for disaster, IMHO.

And when a 150# fanged beast goes berserk, it's not like a poodle or even a lab.

[BruceysMom]

My wolf hybrid always tried to kill my other bitches puppies. In the wild in a pack only alpha's are allowed to breed.

[Puppage]

People can pretend that all breeds are the same

Ok, WHERE did I say that? Actually, never mind. Have a good afternoon.

[Skooz]

I'm convinced the majority of the Freepers anymore are snotty teens and young adults who don't have squat for life experience, but know everything about everything because they can just look it up on the Innterrrnet.

Good post. Without Google, many here wouldn't know what to say about anything. With Google, they think they can argue any point.

It's almost comical getting into heated discussion with some, when I know the gaps between their posts are filled with Googling the subject so they can reply with a "knowing" retort.

[dmz]

Ahh, the Beslan approach. You're 100 yards away (nearby enough?), what good is that 45 going to do? By the time you get into reliable range (where you don't kill the hostage also), the hostage is already dead.

http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/factfile.nsf/0/7322d78f08368e198525627b00654175?OpenDocument

[GaltMeister]

Come to think of it, I've never seen a person who claims to be from Pomerania...

Thats because there are no people in Pomerania just a bunch of dogs, and a few cats to be chased and treed. :o)

[patriciaruth]

Your wolves are not in the wild facing privation, where hierarchy determines who eats first and those at the bottom don't eat at all.

[Capagrl]

Your son's playmate needs surgery after being bitten by a lab, and that's terrible. If the dog had been a 150# rottie, he would have needed a coffin and a tombstone. World of difference

There is a large difference between facial stitches, no matter how sad, and dead.

First, I was addressing the comment that labs are "never" mean; an obviously false statement. But since you appear to be asserting that a Rottie attack will end in absolute death whereas lab attacks only end in sad little stitches and years of reconstructive surgery, I'm wondering where you got your stats?

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

The German Shepard is the prince of dogs.

Sadly, like my custom made Kimber .45, they too, sometimes fall into the hands of idiots and then we get all this hysteria.

[kellynla]

"Well, how come people never make Labs or Goldens mean?
It's in the breed,"

repeating a lie doesn't make it factual

You need to do some research.
And you can start off here.
Most recent attacks by all breeds from
Golden Labs, Siberian Husky,Terriers,Bulldogs,German Sheperd,Mastiff,Akita,Dalmation,Great Dane, Chow, Boxer,even Paris Hilton's Chihuahua, http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm

And I already posted the Humane Society's assessment. And here is the link:
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/dangerous_dogs.html

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

I believe you said a wolf would attack other's pups as a way of life and I said that is absolutely false.

Perhaps I misunderstood you.

[patriciaruth]

BTW, I am a great admirer of wolves. Maybe that is why Samoyed is my dog of choice.

But it is nuts not to see the danger that dogs and wolves are to young children that are not from their own pack.

[Shyla]

I have both pure wolves and wolf hybrids. I find that the hybrids are unstable. When these two pass I will not own another. The wolves are sweethearts. Anyone could take the male, put a collar on him and talk him for a walk - he may walk you, but Storm would love every second of it. My female is shy and will hide from adults she doesn't know.

[Pravious]

"Has anyone tried to purchase homeowner's insurance lately? You get extensive questions about whether or not you own a dog... What kind of dog? Is it a "dangerous breed"? A mixed breed? What kind of mix?"

Yes! I went to get a quote to see if I could lower my insurance, and was refused because my mutts are half Lab / half Huskie (same litter) - in spite of the fact that the one that got most of the Huskie is the sweetest dog on earth (okay, one of em ;-)). I never thought of Huskies as being on the "dangerous dog" list, along with Rottweilers and Pitt Bulls, but I guess some bean-counter decided anyone who owns a dog that has even SOME of those evil genes in it should be denied house insurance... arrrggggh....

[Travis McGee]

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998.... thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

90 posted on 08/03/2005 10:48:15 AM PDT by GummyIII

[Leg Olam]

I think I remember seeing a piece on the History Channel about how Archaeologists unearthed an extensive layer of ancient squeaky toys and water/food dishes in Eastern Europe...One of those Bill Moyer things.