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With Gipper's game plan, Rudy can win it all
Chi Sun Times ^ | July 30, 2005 | THOMAS ROESER

Posted on 07/30/2005 5:55:36 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: Sentis

" Who are they going to vote for Hillary? He merely needs to win the red states which he will as the default Republican"

This is the dangerous game that the GOP plays. They figure you have nowhere else to go with these RINOs. The GOP takes a big fat steaming dump on it's base in order to pander for hispanic votes.

As far as I'm concerned, there's only one guy I will vote for in 2008, and that's George Allen or someone equally or more conservative. Otherwise, Ill just give the GOP elites the finger and sit on my hands.


101 posted on 07/30/2005 9:24:18 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Dscott_FR

Winning more of the citizenry over to our side of the abortion issue is essential: it has nothing to do with being Hilly.


102 posted on 07/30/2005 9:28:49 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: KenmcG414
I'd take him over McCain anyday.

Amen, Bro!

103 posted on 07/30/2005 9:29:06 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: HitmanNY

Helloooo....

What's that got to do with how I vote????


104 posted on 07/30/2005 9:31:23 AM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: Dscott_FR; HitmanNY

What the Hitman is saying is that yelling and raving like a moonbat is only going to HELP the Democrats and the pro-abortionists.

Giving a well reasoned and sensibly given argument as to why Abortion is wrong and the alternatives to it is the way to take all of the ammo away from the Democrats.

In short, don't give them something to bang you over the head with.


105 posted on 07/30/2005 9:33:40 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: Dscott_FR

In sharing your opinion, you called doctors terrorists. In doing so, you diminish your position and harm the pro life cause because our ultimate success culturally rests with convincing people we are right.

You can't do that as well when you lose credibility.


106 posted on 07/30/2005 9:34:06 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Dscott_FR

In sharing your opinion, you called doctors terrorists. In doing so, you diminish your position and harm the pro life cause because our ultimate success culturally rests with convincing people we are right.

You can't do that as well when you lose credibility.


107 posted on 07/30/2005 9:34:36 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: MikeinIraq

Thanks, Mike. The temp is 89 in Vegas this morning - what's it like in Iraq?


108 posted on 07/30/2005 9:35:36 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I'll take a big steaming dump on the religious right any day of the week to keep Hillery out of the White House. The religious right needs to take a backseat and keep their mouths shut for a few years so the rest of us can dig the grave and fill it with the democratic party. Otherwise they are going to regroup, reenergize, and destroy all the good that can be done for this country. The only force in this country that can give the Democrats control again is the tendancy of the Republicans to pander to the religious right.


109 posted on 07/30/2005 9:38:25 AM PDT by Sentis (Visit the Conservative Hollywood http://www.boondockexpansionist.org/phpBB/)
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To: HitmanNY; Allegra

couldnt tell ya :)

I have been home for almost 7 months now :)

probably hot as crap and dusty

as it is 2038 hrs over there, its probably about 110 and Sunny ....

Allegra could tell you...


110 posted on 07/30/2005 9:39:02 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: Sentis; HitmanNY; Darksheare
I'll take a big steaming dump on the religious right any day of the week to keep Hillery out of the White House.

WHAT are you saying?!?
111 posted on 07/30/2005 9:39:56 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: MikeinIraq

Keep on truckin', brother!;-)


112 posted on 07/30/2005 9:40:05 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: MikeinIraq

No idea about taking a dump, sorry. I'm socially very conservative, but also practical. I don't want to take a dump on anyone. (Well, maybe some Islamikazes, but that's it!)


113 posted on 07/30/2005 9:41:34 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

ohh I am....

back to my homework :)


114 posted on 07/30/2005 9:42:20 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: HitmanNY

Well...for the most part I am among likeminded people on FR...I'm not trying to convince anyone on this forum.. There is a time for that...and I've been doing that for years at the clinics.
This is a political forum...and I am making a political statement that abortion is murder/terrorism and I will not vote for those who participate in the murder of anybody...nor will I vote for anybody that shields them.

Now you just put your head back in the sand and we'll let you know when it's time to vote...or maybe we won't. :)


115 posted on 07/30/2005 9:42:21 AM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: MikeinIraq

What I am saying is the religious right need to shut up about politics until the rest of us Republicans that can keep our mouths shut about religion take back this country. Their continued running off at the mouth about their religious social agenda does nothing but alienate half this country and makes it possible for treasonous fools like Kerry and Hillery to close the gap in the popular vote.


116 posted on 07/30/2005 9:43:52 AM PDT by Sentis (Visit the Conservative Hollywood http://www.boondockexpansionist.org/phpBB/)
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To: motzman
If you think Rudy will enact executive orders outlawing or restricting gun access you are stretching. Rudy lived with a gay man for a while, and has had marital problems? Grow up. Nobody's personal life is perfect, and we're not talking about Bill Clinton here. If that bothers you so much, vote for some preacher who hasn't been caught being human yet. Plus, Rudy is much more "conservative" (on issues that really matter) than most realize.

IOW, social conservative issues "don't really matter." I beg to differ. This stuff may not be important anymore where you live, but it is still very important where I live. It's difficult enough to rear children in a traditional family setting while they are subjected to corrosive Hollywood and MTV influences that we can do little to control. But we get it done today, in part, because we can point to President Bush, the most visible public leader in the United States, as a father and husband whose loyalty to his wife is sterling and unquestioned. His example reinforces the example we try to set in our own families.

Similarly, even though Ronald Reagan's first marriage ended in divorce, he always conveyed the impression that fidelity in marriage and loyalty to family were not disposable commodities. One sensed that Reagan was truly heartbroken that his first marriage failed.

I like Giuliani in many ways, but the sense he conveys on social conservative issues is "Whatever. Yawn."

I cannot support such a candidate for President. I might be able to support him if he could honestly and forthrightly recognize social conservative values as being vitally important and preferable to social liberalism even if he has been unable to live up to socially conservative standards personally. But I don't think he believes that. I think he believes social conservatism is a joke, neanderthal, and unhip.

Too bad. He coulda been a contender.

117 posted on 07/30/2005 9:45:43 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Dscott_FR

When you raise the level of rhetoric, you lose credibility.

Credibility, once lost, is hard to regain. In some cases, that's a good thing, I suppose.

Be seeing you.


118 posted on 07/30/2005 9:46:28 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Sentis

"The only force in this country that can give the Democrats control again is the tendancy of the Republicans to pander to the religious right."

You sound like a DUmmie......are you sure you're on the right site?

Your post also sounds like you have a deep hatred/resentment of the "religious right" as you call it.

I guess you would also refer to our founding fathers as the "religious right"? So much for their original intent, might as well more leftward with moderates like you in the big tent GOP.


119 posted on 07/30/2005 9:46:39 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Dscott_FR

When you raise the level of rhetoric, you lose credibility.

Credibility, once lost, is hard to regain. In some cases, that's a good thing, I suppose.

Be seeing you.


120 posted on 07/30/2005 9:46:48 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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