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House Endorses Moon-to-Mars Plans
Space.com ^ | 22 July 2004 | Andrew Taylor

Posted on 07/23/2005 4:14:04 AM PDT by demlosers

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1 posted on 07/23/2005 4:14:04 AM PDT by demlosers
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Still, there was one lone voice against the bill. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., questioned spending billions to go to Mars when "day after day ... we're told we can't do enough for housing and we can't do enough for health care.''

Shut up, Barney. We're not going to implement socialized medicine. Just get over it.
2 posted on 07/23/2005 4:19:00 AM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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"Shut up, Barney."

I was just going to post the same thing. lol. Thanks.


3 posted on 07/23/2005 4:19:53 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Terpfen

I will support the trip if the Democrat leaders in Congress are the first crew and agree to stay. Let Sheila Jackson Lee plant her own flag up there. Down there? Over there? Where in the heck is Mars?


4 posted on 07/23/2005 4:46:03 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: demlosers

This is ONLY a good idea if the project is ONLY a U.S.A. project with no foreign connections whatsoever and all data is kept "at home"!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 07/23/2005 4:53:27 AM PDT by Highest Authority
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"This is ONLY a good idea if the project is ONLY a U.S.A. project with no foreign connections whatsoever and all data is kept "at home"!!!!!!!!!"

Roger that. It's directly relateable to national security.


6 posted on 07/23/2005 5:30:02 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: demlosers
Has our nation's leadership gone mad?

A gigantically expensive space trip in the middle of a so-called war (in which we can't provide sufficient troop strength nor protect those that are there)?

7 posted on 07/23/2005 6:07:48 AM PDT by iconoclast ( "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive")
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This is the kind of thinking that made America great! If not for our drive for exploration and expansion, we would still be 13 small states along the East Coast of North America. The exploration of space constitutes less than 1% of the federal budget, but it is critical for national morale, inspiring the next generation of students, advancing technology, and establishing America as the preeminent culture on Earth. The Apollo program helped us win the Cold War with far fewer casualties by convincing our enemies that America can accomplish anything that we set our minds to. Imagine the effect on some kid living in a mud hut in the Middle East who looks up and knows that America has a colony on the Moon while he is living in an 8th Century nightmare. Space exploration is not the whole answer, but it is part of the answer.


8 posted on 07/23/2005 8:09:10 AM PDT by darth
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9 posted on 07/23/2005 8:11:20 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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The Best weapon of mass destruction is the one that took out the dinosaurs. It makes everything the Islamofascists come up with pale by comparison.

Only an ongoing presence in space can provide us the wherewithal to deal with space-borne problems, as the recent cometary impact probe should demonstrate.

Moreover, Mankind's ultimate destiny lies in expanding to other worlds, or perishing here. That particular factor in the Drake equation is the biggest unknown in our future.


10 posted on 07/23/2005 8:14:57 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (Mighty and enduring? They are but toys of the moment to be overturned by the flicking of a finger.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
"Where in the heck is Mars?"

The only safe directions to not point are true North and South. Mars is farther from the Sun than we are, but since it orbits the Sun also, it could be on the other side of it from us.

At some point, it would possibly be useful to many who are interested, to have a watch that gives us such an orientation. Present time and season on Mars, as well as its current position in orbit relative to Earth.

Now might be the time to invest in the company that will produce such a consumer item.

11 posted on 07/23/2005 8:34:14 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (Mighty and enduring? They are but toys of the moment to be overturned by the flicking of a finger.)
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To: iconoclast

Better than paying for welfare mommas and foreign aid for despots that hate us.



12 posted on 07/23/2005 8:37:42 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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Mars is farther from the Sun than we are, but since it orbits the Sun also, it could be on the other side of it from us.

It would be a bitch to head for Mars and run into the Sun.

Now might be the time to invest in the company that will produce such a consumer item

Go get 'em, Bob. I think you are the man for the job.

13 posted on 07/23/2005 8:38:39 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; KevinDavis
"It would be a bitch to head for Mars and run into the Sun."

Actually, it could be quite a convenient shortcut. Remember the slingshot maneuver? It could take months off the time of a traditional trip to Mars.

Actually going into the Sun would be a bad thing, however. Solar protection factor only goes so high, you know.

14 posted on 07/23/2005 9:00:01 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (Mighty and enduring? They are but toys of the moment to be overturned by the flicking of a finger.)
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I agree, however, I favor more invovlement by private industry....


15 posted on 07/23/2005 9:05:22 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: NicknamedBob
Actually, it could be quite a convenient shortcut. Remember the slingshot maneuver?

Maybe NASCAR drivers should be recruited as astronauts.

16 posted on 07/23/2005 9:06:04 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: NicknamedBob

A Mars clock is an excellent idea. In fact, timekeeping on the moon has to be resolved. What did they do with the Rovers? Decimal marsday?


17 posted on 07/23/2005 9:06:37 AM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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Excuse me, but how has time on the Moon been resolved?


18 posted on 07/23/2005 9:13:15 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: demlosers
These are the voyages of the star ship Enterprise - to boldy go where no man has gone before! Yeeee Hiiii -

I just wish Scotty could have lived to see it happen.

19 posted on 07/23/2005 9:19:29 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: equaviator; Highest Authority
"This is ONLY a good idea if the project is ONLY a U.S.A. project with no foreign connections whatsoever and all data is kept "at home"!!!!!!!!!"
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Roger that. It's directly relateable to national security.

Despite national security concerns, the Bush Administration will outsource this to India.

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20 posted on 07/23/2005 9:20:40 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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