NASA's new 'vision' raises questions about Mars (Griffin Comments)

eitb24 ^ | 07/17/2005

[tamalejoe]

Somebody with the political clout to do so needs to tell NASA that Cydonia has to be the first thing they look at when they do go to Mars. Looking for evidence of germs when you have solid evidence of the remains of a megalithic city is beyond idiotic; it's a state of denial.

[Strategerist]

Somebody with the political clout to do so needs to tell NASA that Cydonia has to be the first thing they look at when they do go to Mars. Looking for evidence of germs when you have solid evidence of the remains of a megalithic city is beyond idiotic; it's a state of denial.

Member of the Hoaxland cult I suppose...

[OSHA]

"solid evidence of the remains of a megalithic city "

You are kidding......aren't you?

[RightWhale]

"If we don't go there, eventually other nations will, and 'eventually' may not be too long."

America is still wide open to losing the space race, and losing in a permanent way that will affect its economic position and security on earth. Other countries are ahead now and moving farther ahead in education. Space is still America's baliwick, but at the rate things are going it won't be so much longer. Other nations will go there, it won't take all that long, and other nations may start claiming some resources. The 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty has the single objective of stopping America's private sector from developing space resources. Stopped cold.

[demlosers]

Member of the Hoaxland cult I suppose...

However, Cydonia is one of the more interesting places to visit first and it should be a priority.

[AntiGuv]

We should go to Mars ASAP if only just to plant the Stars & Stripes.

Inscription: It's ours. We'll get around to using it whenever we feel like it.

[Phocion]

The article is silly. The moon and Mars vision is still on-schedule, and it seems like it's what Griffin is focused on. Should Bush be out rah-rah-ing a Mars mission while we're having trouble even getting people into orbit at the moment? The CEV design hasn't even been chosen yet. Let's take things one step at a time, WashPost. Just because you haven't been getting press releases doesn't mean no work is being done.

[tamalejoe]

All of those pictures are NASA photos. Hoagland is not manufacturing them with Photopaint.

[RightWhale]

We have to withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty first. Why are we still in that Treaty?

[Strategerist]

All of those pictures are NASA photos. Hoagland is not manufacturing them with Photopaint.

He certainly encourages the miseducation and hallucinations of the ignorant, however.

[RightWhale]

Those are natural features. It is natural to see 'things' in natural features, but then a closer look makes the 'things' disappear.

[sandydipper]

I'll go - I'll even through in $37.76. I do need a zipper on my space suit though 'cause I take 2 diuretics.

[ReadyNow]

Karl Rove's great-grandfather emigrated from the Martian megalithic city in the mid-19th century. The records are available in the Ellis Island archives.

[RightWhale]

So, what about the Treaty?

[demlosers]

Those are natural features. It is natural to see 'things' in natural features, but then a closer look makes the 'things' disappear.

Nonetheless, the IR images of Cydonia do have tantalizing patterns to go along with the other "natural" looking structures. Nobody knows for sure what's there, but it does make enough of a compelling case to visit Cydonia first when we do get the chance.

[zarf]

All of those pictures are NASA photos. Hoagland is not manufacturing them with Photopaint.

Let me not be the last to say: "You're a kook".

[RightWhale]

Judging from the qualities of the barrens where they have placed their landers so far, driving a Rover around Cydonia couldn't possibly be less productive of scientific data than past missions and would at least quiet some of the speculation.

[AntiGuv]

No good reason I can think of. The Treaty's days are numbered, anyhow. It's completely implausible to think that territorial claims will not be extended to space at some point in the future. I sure hope someone relevant is thinking about how we're gonna prevail in all that.

I say we should go ahead and declare our preemptive claims "just in case" (kinda like how it is with Antarctica).

We got this rock covered, now let's go ahead and pin down Mars. Someone should be forging a titanium flag that can withstand Venusian surface conditions as well. =)

[demlosers]

Judging from the qualities of the barrens where they have placed their landers so far, driving a Rover around Cydonia couldn't possibly be less productive of scientific data than past missions and would at least quiet some of the speculation.

Right.

In 2009, when NASA starts to send nuclear powered rovers to Mars, they should plan to send one to Cydonia. The more NASA shy away from interesting places, the more speculation they create. If they want to shut up Hoagland and et al, then investigate Cydonia. It's only going to get worse in the future.