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Kelly Hollowell points out women today aren't just wives and mothers. Conservatives need to appreciate the importance of a society in which men and women are sexually equal. We no longer live in an era where women worked in the home and men where the breadwinners. HELLO! This is the 21st Century.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
1 posted on 07/08/2005 10:47:56 PM PDT by goldstategop
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Do conservatives regard women as inferior?

Let me run out to the kitchen to ask my wife what she thinks.

48 posted on 07/09/2005 4:28:16 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and proud of it!)
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Hey Wench! Where's my beer?


51 posted on 07/09/2005 5:15:47 AM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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The author needs to go back to start on this. Garbled message, unimpressive composition.


52 posted on 07/09/2005 5:22:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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The Man Song by Bob and Tom

I don't take no crap (from anyone else but you),
I wear the pants around here (when I'm finished with your laundry),
Cause I'm a guy you don't wanna fight,
When I say jump (you say, "Yeah Right!")
I'm the man of this house (until you get home).

What I say goes around here (right out the window),
And I don't want to hear a lot of whining (so I'll shut up),
The sooner you learn who's boss around here
(The sooner you can give me my orders, dear),
Cause I'm head honcho around here (but it's all in my head!)

And I can have sex any time (that you want),
'Cause I'm a man who has needs (but they're not that important),
And don't expect any flowers from me ('cause if I'm not mistaken you prefer jewelery),
I'm the king of my castle (when you're not around).

And I'll drink and watch sports whenever I want (to get in trouble),
And I'll come home when I'm good and ready (to sleep on the couch),
'Cause a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do
(and I'm gonna do what you tell me to),
Because I'm top dog around here (but I've been neutered!)


57 posted on 07/09/2005 5:46:49 AM PDT by Graymatter
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There is NO "just" about being a mother.


64 posted on 07/09/2005 6:41:54 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Just one more reason to hate the government....)
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We never should have given them the vote. ;-)


67 posted on 07/09/2005 7:28:09 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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What a stupid article.


68 posted on 07/09/2005 7:41:08 AM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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Do Conservatives See Women As Inferior?



Freudian slip?
70 posted on 07/09/2005 7:59:48 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.
Proverbs 31:10


71 posted on 07/09/2005 8:05:21 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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I'm disappointed in this "analysis," if you can call it that.

Some of the leading characters in the conservative drama of the past few years are strong, intelligent, thoughtful women who have brought the ideas of America's Founding into the forefront of conservative thought, or have practiced leadership in the movement in a variety of ways.

Two or three names that come to mind are:

Lynn Cheney (who was writing 20 or so years ago about the schools effectively "erasing the American memory" of generations of children of our founding principles) and has now contributed children's history books during the time she is serving as the Vice President's wife;
Barbara Olsen, Attorney and wife of Ted Olsen, whose grace and knowledge of conservative ideas made her a highly respected and influential working spokesman for conservatism;
Annette Kirk, wife of Dr. Russell Kirk, appointed by President Reagan to the National Commission on Excellence in Education, which in 1983 published the landmark report, "A Nation at Risk, elevating educational issues to national prominence. She has served for some years as an advisor to the Mackinac Center for Public Policy and to the Heritage Foundation’s Russell Kirk Memorial Lecture Series. In 2002 she was appointed to the board of the Laura Bush Foundation for America’s Libraries;
Phyllis Schlafly, a conservative thought leader of millions since 1964, when her book, A Choice Not an Echo, thrust her into the spotlight. A lawyer who has focused on Constitutional thought, was appointed by President Ronald Reagan to serve as a member of the Commission on the Bicentennial of the U.S. Constitution 1985-1991. She has testified before more than 50 congressional and state legislative committees on constitutional, national defense and family issues. She is a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Washington University, received her J.D. from Washington University Law School and her master's in political science from Harvard University. Ladies' Home Journal named her one of the 100 most important women of the 20th century;
Beverly LaHaye,the exact opposite of the Liberal N.O.W. leaders. She founded Concerned Women for America, a Christian, Conservative, and Traditional-Values-oriented organization that commands respect for its analysis and activism in conservative matters. She and her organization have influenced the minds of millions.

These are only a few of the respected leaders of conservatism in America. As a matter of fact, were it not for them and the work they have been doing for several decades, the movement itself would not have penetrated the hearts and minds of the citizenry out there in the so-called "red states."

Thinkers and doers command respect, regardless of gender. Clare Booth Luce, author of "Great American Conservative Women," was herself a respected leader decades ago.

Of course, those who should be the most highly respected among us are the mothers of home-schooled youngsters who are sacrificing "luxuries" in order to rear a generation of youth who understand the founding ideas, who will be equipped by their education to become responsible citizens, and who will be the new conservative leaders. As a matter of fact, some of the young male leaders of today came from just that kind of background.

"Never underestimate the power of a woman," a magazine declared. That old adage applies in spades to the conservative women who can be given credit for a major responsibility for today's "red states." Both Party leaders had better have tremendous respect for that effort, because it is not the liberal feminists who rule in those areas, it is the woman who has been reading and studying the documents of America's founding, the writings of some of the people name above, and is dedicated to preserving liberty for her children and grandchildren.

72 posted on 07/09/2005 8:15:26 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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The Dems like to say, "When women vote, Democrats win." I read somewhere that if it hadn't been for women voters, Bill Clinton would never have been elected. We can say, "Well, women are just stupid, inferior Dims," and write them off, or we can try to help them see the light, as I and many other female former Dems have seen the light.

I've seen threads on FR that were so nasty, so hateful toward women, that I could only think, "If some liberal woman comes to this site and reads this, it will only reinforce every negative stereotype that she holds about conservative men." I'm no feminist, but I think there must be a lot of divorced, bitter men on FR, and they absolutely despise women. They sound exactly like Feminazis in reverse, as they blame women for everything and paint themselves as noble victims. There are certain topics, certain threads that I don't even click on anymore because I know they will bring out the FR woman-bashers. It's the one downside to this site.

If we want more women to come around and start voting like conservatives, I don't think those attitudes will help to bring them into the tent. Just MHO.


73 posted on 07/09/2005 8:31:46 AM PDT by Nea Wood (A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Proverbs 13:22)
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Well, I know that when I heard that after "The Kiss" that AlGore put on Tipper during the campaign, his support among women rose substantially, I thought that giving women the vote was a really bad idea...

Mark

75 posted on 07/09/2005 10:12:16 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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"it is better for a man to live in the corner of a roof than share a house with a complaining wife."

To be fair, this doesn't speak to matters of inferiority or superiority, It just says that it is better for a man to live in the corner of a roof than share a house with a complaining wife. Indeed, it could be better.

78 posted on 07/09/2005 10:47:41 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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We no longer live in an era where women worked in the home and men where the breadwinners

Hello yourself! I work for pecuniary compensation, my wife takes care of the household and the kids. We each are more valuable to our family in those particular roles, and embrace that model by choice.

Why should we let our children be raised by some state-aproved day care baby mill when my wife can do a better job? Employment for her would only mean she gets run ragged for a marginal financial gain, while our children get farmed out.

Sounds like a socialist wet dream to me.

Not all want to live the way we do, they have the option not to. What's the big deal?

My wife wants to know why women should want to be sexually equal? Why give up their clear advantages?

82 posted on 07/09/2005 11:02:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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