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Muslims Crowding London's Mosques Say They Fear Backlash in Aftermath of Bombings
AP ^ | Jul 8, 2005 | Jill Lawless

Posted on 07/08/2005 12:59:23 PM PDT by phoenix_004

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To: tobyhill

"If the speeding in some way harmed someone then, yes. I'm very careful in choosing my words so I meant what I wrote and there was a reason. The acts of terrorism is usually proceeded by other criminal acts like buying the components used to make bombs, being illegal in a country, etc... Argue with that fact."

I won't argue at all with that fact, it's common sense. But now you're talking about activities that support terrorist attacks again whereas, if I answer on that basis, you tell me not to take your words out of context.

The things you say with regards to the Islamists are generally true. However your convoluted attempts to lump the entire body of world Islam in with the terrorists harm your case, as anyone capable of clear thinking and reading comprehension can see the logical holes.

If we were to accept your argument, moreover, it would greatly harm the progression of our struggle against the terrorists, as we would be handing to Osama Bin Laden on a plate the thing that he has always desired most - a war between a polarised Islamic world and Western civilisation.


481 posted on 07/09/2005 10:11:46 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard

Tell me what faction of Islam is the "Religion of Peace"?


482 posted on 07/09/2005 10:15:56 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill
Oh, my...........

Go ahead and think whatever you want, toby.

Just don't expect to be taken seriously.

Good day.

483 posted on 07/09/2005 10:20:16 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: tobyhill

"Tell me what faction of Islam is the "Religion of Peace"?"

That's kind of a meaningless question. I know some Muslims who I would describe as peaceful. Well, actually I wouldn't, because it would never occur to me to apply that adjective to any of my friends, I kinda take it as a given, but hey. Feel free to come over and meet them.


484 posted on 07/09/2005 10:25:12 AM PDT by Canard
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To: AbeKrieger

If the worst that has yet happened is a headscarf being pulled, and a lot of hate e mail, they have gotten off VEERRRRRY easy!


485 posted on 07/09/2005 10:28:35 AM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: ohioWfan

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8523140/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4663411.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4665133.stm

You go ahead with your theory of Good Muslim and Bad Muslim and I'll continue with mine regardless how seriously one wants to take it.


486 posted on 07/09/2005 10:29:59 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill

none. (according to the Quran)


487 posted on 07/09/2005 10:30:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Canard

"Feel free to come over and meet them"

Sounds like a trap to me.


488 posted on 07/09/2005 10:31:46 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: lastfreeamerican
"When that evangelical Christian shot up the abortion clinic in Pensacola, Fl., was that not an act of terrorism in the name of Christianity?"

Stop your deliberate distortions to protect a cult of hate. You know damn well that anyone can do something in the name of a religion or cult but the VAST majority of Christians would not support shooting up an abortion clinic. The MoHamMuds however, show their support of terrorism by their almost total silence.

489 posted on 07/09/2005 10:33:31 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Canard
LOL, absolutely, as have you, years ago.

But I am not the one trolling for sympathy on an American Board, pretending "solidarity" with the US.

Your faux claims of some kind of outrage against me are laughable considering what you and yours have said and done to the US President and America since 9/11. Yes, you loved us when we were dying, on our heels, and vulnerable.

But since then with your marches, hate filled rhetoric for our President and our people have been very telling, and no amount of sympathy can change it, the majority of British people took sides against the US years ago, going back to the Pals and Israel.

Read your own lectures Canard, you are proud of the "millions" of "ordinary" Brits who marched in support of Saddam and Sons, carrying signs calling a US President Hitler. Your solidarity extends to only the US leftists who hate America.
490 posted on 07/09/2005 10:41:29 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: ohioWfan
"(Personal note.......I find many of the posts on this thread advocating mass violence toward innocent people who happen to be Muslim reprehensible, and I wish the Mods would monitor and zap them)."

Would you feel the same if the outrage were directed at members of the KKK? I for one, and I am sure there are many more, believe that Islime is worse than the KKK. Both need to be exterminated.

30+ years of this trash commiting terrorist acts and the "Religion of Peace" fools remaining silent tells me they, as a group, support the terrorist and are in no way "innocent people".

491 posted on 07/09/2005 10:42:01 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: tobyhill
It's not a 'theory about Good Muslim, bad Muslim' and you know it.

It's God's word about the sinful nature of ALL of us, and our need for redemption.

You have failed to make your point, so you have resorted to saying I've said things that I haven't said.

I call that lying. It's a sin. And without God's redemption through the blood of Jesus Christ, you should suffer eternal punishment for it. (As do I for my sins).

That's my only point, toby. And if you choose to ignore it, so be it.

492 posted on 07/09/2005 10:56:53 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: phoenix_004
A mosque is nothing more than a weapons factory. Pure and simple. Our government, driven by PC, will never treat mosques as an internal threat to our security. Our same government will protect this human(?) debris and should we, as citizens, attempt to eliminate these weapons factories the government will ignore its directive to secure our borders throw us in jail.

The starting point is to get islime declared an anti-woman, anti-Jew, anti-Christian, hate cult which is NOT protected by the First Amendment. Once that is done, we can use the rest of our legal arsenal to start ridding the USA of this cancer.

If on the other hand, we continue to use the word religion in conjunction with islime then we have tied our own hands and can do nothing but stand by while they plot the next attack on innocent citizens.

493 posted on 07/09/2005 10:58:32 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Wurlitzer
It is against FR rules to advocate violence and death for innocent people, and it is wrong.

If you wish to know my (Scripture based) views on anything, please scroll back and read them.

I've said all I intend to say on this thread.

494 posted on 07/09/2005 10:58:51 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan

"Just for the record, I know one who lives in Milwaukee that doesn't know a single terrorist."

I call that lying because I didn't write terrorist, I wrote criminal act.

If your statements aren't about good Muslim, bad Muslim then which one are they? Are they bad until redemption then suddenly turn good? Is blowing people up just "sinful nature" or is it pure evil?
Continue your forgiving ways. I consider forgiving them again a form of appeasement because they'll think that they can get by with it time and time again and gain sympathy time and time again.


495 posted on 07/09/2005 11:19:52 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: roses of sharon

"Your faux claims of some kind of outrage against me are laughable considering what you and yours have said and done to the US President and America since 9/11"

"But since then with your marches, hate filled rhetoric for our President and our people have been very telling"

"Read your own lectures Canard, you are proud of the "millions" of "ordinary" Brits who marched in support of Saddam and Sons, carrying signs calling a US President Hitler. Your solidarity extends to only the US leftists who hate America."

Once again your apparant belief that you know me is puzzling.


496 posted on 07/09/2005 11:23:33 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard

Of course.


497 posted on 07/09/2005 11:30:45 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: tobyhill
You have misunderstood everything I've said. I understand good and evil, as deliniated in Scripture. That's my source. Not my own personal feelings or hatred.

I'll assume that your 'misunderstanding' of what I've said is deliberate, since I have no reason to believe you were ever interested in genuine dialogue. Your hyperbole and false charges have made that very clear.

Good bye, Toby.

498 posted on 07/09/2005 11:39:50 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan

I have understood exactly what you've said and what you've meant but once again I won't fall for this good Muslim sympathy number. Get 10 million Muslims together in Mecca and you won't hear one apology for their crimes. Talk is cheap and ineffective so that's why I prefer missiles. May cost a bit more but boy do they shut em up real quick.

Ba Bye


499 posted on 07/09/2005 12:31:57 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill
No, you haven't understood. Only God can help you do that, since it is HIS law that you deny.

I will get out of His way as He speaks to you, because I'm clearly not getting through. I'll just pray that HE does.

500 posted on 07/09/2005 12:57:51 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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