Posted on 07/08/2005 12:59:23 PM PDT by phoenix_004
"not a word condemning the killings....."
From the original article:
"Thousands of Muslims crowded London mosques for Friday prayers, condemning the bombings"
"All of Britain's major Muslim groups condemned the bombings"
We are all sinners and equally in need of God's love and redemption. ALL our righteousness is as 'filthy rags'......even those of us who were raised in Christian countries, or are actually followers of Jesus Christ.
The difference in us is not in our own righteousness, but in God's mercy and grace. The problem is in their man-made, violent religion and in their culture and training, all of which can be changed if their hearts are changed. There are plenty of people who were raised in America who are not Christian, but have been influenced for the good because we are a country that bases its laws on God's laws. That could also be true in democracies in the Mid East.
The Muslim people are not fundamentally evil any more than we are.......that's what God has told us in His word. Those who are guilty need to be eradicated. Those who are not need to be redeemed.
When those 'condemning' the bombings turn the perpetrators in, and rebel against the hate and destruction they have been taught in their religion, we will begin to believe them.
Until then, their 'prayers' are empty and meaningless.
"Everyone in the Muslim community knows someone who has committed such an act"
Why bother making a statement that is just patently obviously wrong?
The Koran specifies to be "converted to Islam or be killed" and it continues by ordering those who have been converted to carry out such killings. They live by the Koran so therefore they are pure evil and I do not love evil. Read the link and you may understand more than just the part where God orders us to "love thy neighbor".
http://www.lastdaysreporter.com/israel-arab-conflict.html
"Why bother making a statement that is just patently obviously wrong?"
Prove I'm wrong!
Solidarity? Really?
I read your press everyday, all of it, including the Arab press, and I have been reading it for years now.
I see no solidarity, except in victimhood.
I see infintile slanders of good men and women, libel, anti-semitism, disrespect for the President of the United States and your own PM, during a time of war, I see aggrandizement of Saddam and Sons, Arafat, OBL and others, I see anti-americanism, and reputations of our election.
You are right, it is telling, very telling indeed.
"Prove I'm wrong!"
Your assertion is that every single one of the billion odd muslims in the world knows someone that has committed a terrorist act?
You're making the whacked out claims, you prove you're right.
Oh you again. Well, as they say, you're either with us or you're 'gainst us and at least you've left no-one in any doubt as to your choice of sides.
Maybe not every single one of them, but enough of them do for them to be considered a serious threat.
Do not take my words out of context. I didn't say terrorist acts, I said criminal act. Immigration laws are also criminal acts that harm people as with theft, murder, terrorism and contributing financial aid that makes it's way to terrorist. Now prove I'm wrong!
I don't believe in JUST 'love thy neighbor'..........and if you actually read my posts you'd know that.
The evil of the Islamic enemy doesn't change God's command to love our enemies.
What we have here is a difference in theology. I base mine on the entirety of Scripture, and I don't believe that you do.....
toby, you'll gain more ground if you stick to the truth rather than emotional outlandish rhetoric. The truth about Islam is strong enough to convict them. You don't need to make accusations that can't possibly be true.
We have a serious threat here, and making things up about it exacerbates rather than solves the problem.
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"Do not take my words out of context. I didn't say terrorist acts, I said criminal act. Immigration laws are also criminal acts that harm people as with theft, murder, terrorism and contributing financial aid that makes it's way to terrorist. Now prove I'm wrong!"
Considering that your posting in a thread about a terrorist attack, I think I was taking your words *in* context. Given the context that you now ask me to apply, it's possible that it is the case that all Muslims know someone that has a criminal act that could harm someone. I mean, now your widening it to include immigration laws and presumably things like speeding, etc. So, yeah, pretty much every adult in the world probably knows someone who has committed such an act under that context. Presumably everyone of those has an obligation to inform the authorities. Can't see why the religion of the person in question would affect that responsibility in any way.
One way they can do this is to turn in their buddys that have committed any crime against innocent people. Everyone in the Muslim community knows someone who has committed such an act.
.......and it's a fabrication of your own mind.
As I said......if you stick with the facts and stop making up garbage, you'll go a whole lot farther in convincing others of your (rational) points.
Making statements like this hurts your argument.
The dear Muslim woman I referred to in Milwaukee doesn't know people who have committed such crimes against innocent people either.
Your hyberbole is nonsense.
If she knows anyone in this country illegally or even has a reasonable suspicion then she has an obligation to contact the authorities. How are you so sure she doesn't know someone that has committed a criminal act?
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