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Freemason Scots 'laid foundations of America'
Times Online (UK) ^ | July 4, 2005 | Kath Gourlay

Posted on 07/05/2005 9:01:32 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan

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To: CondorFlight

"Salvation Army soldiers are forbidden to join the masons, also."

LOL

Rev. William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army WAS a FREEMASON.

http://www.cephasministry.com/index_salvation_army.html


101 posted on 07/05/2005 11:37:12 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: kellynla

"Freemasonry teaches a naturalistic religion that espouses indifferentism, the position that a person can be equally pleasing to God while remaining in any religion."

An oft-repeated slander.

Indeed, to be a Knight Templar, one must be a Christian.


102 posted on 07/05/2005 11:38:41 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Chode

and after reading your FR home page, you claim to be a Catholic?

"LIKES: Fighting and drinking. Cussing and cheating. Whoring, whoring and more whoring.

SECRET AMBITION: To become rich enough that he can open his own combination

dope den / whorehouse / microbrewery... and be the only customer."


103 posted on 07/05/2005 11:40:00 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: CondorFlight
...I would suggest those who are interested read...

Christianity and Freemasonry: Are They Compatible?

104 posted on 07/05/2005 11:42:25 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: CondorFlight

Being York Rite, and not Scottish Rite, but being Anglican, what you describe sounds an awful lot like the Paschal Service (Good Friday) service.

It is, off course, followed, by the resurrection of Jesus The Christ and the re-lighting of the candle from the one left burning, followed by hymns and praises to the God of Abraham.


105 posted on 07/05/2005 11:43:32 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: MeanWestTexan

"An oft-repeated slander."

I don't have the time and/or the inclination to debate the issue but if you think the Catholic Church has slandered then I suggest you sue the Church and we'll see who is right and who is wrong now won't we...


106 posted on 07/05/2005 11:48:18 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
well you got me there... i never said what KIND of Catholic i am.
so you could say i'm a Catholic in my Heart cause they ruined the Church after it went from Latin to English and we've had a terrible secession of Priests in my Parish since the 70's so i don't attend Mass in Church, but i still go through the Latin Mass(old Alterboy) at home every now and again and still look up to the Pope for strength, BUT, as a Mason, I KNOW there is NOTHING in MASONRY that goes against the teachings of Christ and i can live with my decisions in good consciousness. if being a Mason is my biggest transgression against the RCC i guess i can live with it. all the charity work and money my Lodge has given to my area over the 135years it's been here are testament to enough for me as to if it is good or evil.
107 posted on 07/05/2005 11:49:27 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: nuffsenuff

My father was a Mason and so was my father in law. There's nothing bizarre about it at all. They do a lot of charity work, run blood drives, etc. As a matter of fact you don't even need to be a Christian to join. I know of several Jewish masons.


108 posted on 07/05/2005 11:51:15 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: MeanWestTexan
I have just started reading a book which my daughter gave me for Father's day, which says Scots created the modern world.

Not sure they should take that blame on themselves tho,

109 posted on 07/05/2005 11:52:37 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Matchett-PI

"Many of America's Founders were "freemasons" therefore the Constitution really isn't in place to guard absolute (self-evident) moral truths and we have the right to change it."

I have no idea what you are talking about.


110 posted on 07/05/2005 11:52:48 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: kellynla

dude... it's a CARTOON SHOW on Sci-Fi TV and it's tooo funny... i put it up there to try and get people to watch the show... it has nothing to do with me other than i think the show is hilarious.


111 posted on 07/05/2005 11:53:53 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: nuffsenuff

"Will someone be excommunicated for becoming a Mason?"

No. This is up there with the lies like "Salvation Army Soldiers" hates Masons. (As posted earlier, the founder of the Salvation Army (like the founder of the Boy Scouts) was a Mason.)


112 posted on 07/05/2005 11:54:14 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Rytwyng

"Baptists and other Evangelicals are also warned to avoid Masonry, because of its occult connections."

Then I guess the "Baptist Story Hour" was an occult program. Indeed, many of the most prominent Baptist preachers in this nation were Masons, starting with Bellamy, Francis J. - The Baptist Minister who created America's Pledge of Allegiance.

Here:

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_bap_freemasons.html


113 posted on 07/05/2005 11:59:07 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: kellynla

ooops... just looked at the page... seems that Sci-Fi has dropped their links to the site...(all the red x's) and all that text comes from the "Tripping the Rift" home page on Sci-Fi.com that now for some reason is blank. thankx i'll have to look into this.


114 posted on 07/05/2005 11:59:21 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode
What a bunch of hogwash!!!

from the filth on your FR webpage and your membership in the Freemasons, when the Catholic Church starting celebrating the Mass in English is the least of your worries...if you haven't been inside a Catholic church lately, I gather you haven't made a confession and/or received the Holy Eucharist lately either...you can find the closest Catholic church in the yellow pages of your local telephone directory.

in the mean time, I wouldn't pass myself off as a Catholic if I were you...gives us a bad image. LMAO
115 posted on 07/05/2005 12:01:38 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: AzSteven

No, very intentional.


116 posted on 07/05/2005 12:03:27 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: kellynla

I know what freemasonry "teaches" and it has nothing to do with universalism, farther than "all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalieable rights" to quote a famous freemason.

This was, and is, I suppose considered heresy to some, but, despite lies on the internet to the contrary, not the roman church.

Indeed, to the extent freemasonry deals with the hearafter (which is very little), it requires one to take "the Holy Bible as the rule and guide to your faith and practice."


117 posted on 07/05/2005 12:10:00 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: kellynla
dude... see post#111 it's a CARTOON SHOW on Sci-Fi TV and it's tooo funny... i put it up there to try and get people to watch the show... it has Nothing to do with me other than i think the show is hilarious.

for some reason the links to SciFi are down so that's why the red x's

i'll say this much, i'm a lot better Catholic than many i know... but now days, that's getting easier to do to.

you telling me John Wayne is EVIL too???

118 posted on 07/05/2005 12:10:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Andy'smom

"As a matter of fact you don't even need to be a Christian to join. I know of several Jewish masons."

Partially correct. You must be Christian to join the York Rite (Knight's Templar).

Scottish Rite is open to those who accept the Holy Bible as the unadultered Word of God. I suppose Jews would be OK with the the Old Testament, but not sure how they would concern themselves with the New.


119 posted on 07/05/2005 12:13:02 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: olde north church

Your name is very ironic, given that Paul Revere (the hanger of the lantern on the Old North Church) was a very active Mason. (See the article.)


120 posted on 07/05/2005 12:17:12 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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