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Nation's Largest Union Sets Goal of $40,000 Starting Salary for Teachers
AP ^ | AP-ES-07-03-05 1627EDT

Posted on 07/03/2005 2:20:12 PM PDT by TheOtherOne

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1 posted on 07/03/2005 2:20:13 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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If the public education system were doing a good job with all the money that's thrown at them we would be a well educated society with a corresponding national wealth that would allow higher pay for teachers and all other professions and occupations.
2 posted on 07/03/2005 2:26:01 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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My bet is, of course, that they've set their target at $40,000 per year and that will be the new base on which union dues are calculated. The dems are despirate for cash and increasing the dues is the best way to get it, less, of course, the cut that the union officers usually take.


3 posted on 07/03/2005 2:26:23 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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Yep! Gotta be right thing to do. Look how the TSA (airport security)has improved since they got big raises and gubmint benefits.


4 posted on 07/03/2005 2:27:58 PM PDT by litehaus
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Wash DC spends $15,000. per student--

Pay the Teachers 15,000. until they show that students can read and write ENGLISH>


5 posted on 07/03/2005 2:28:35 PM PDT by Zenith
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" 'The issue is where the money is going to come from," Weaver said. "And to respond to that, my answer is I don't care.'"

Wow - says it all.

AFT gets 1% of each teacher's pay check. So they are NOT an impartial observer where salary increases are at issue.


6 posted on 07/03/2005 2:30:37 PM PDT by 4Liberty (I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than too little. Tom Jefferson)
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$40K is just a drop in the bucket. These poor people need $66,666,66 just to break even. After all, it's for the children, isn't it?


7 posted on 07/03/2005 2:33:25 PM PDT by hkp037
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Weaver, poised to begin his second three-year term as the union's president, said higher pay for veteran teachers and classroom aides will also be a political priority for the NEA.

Wonder what his salary is?

8 posted on 07/03/2005 2:35:49 PM PDT by neodad (I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way)
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Very simple, just drop the pension programs and let them pay into their own 401Ks. The pension programs are what drive costs up, and they commit taxpayers decades later.


9 posted on 07/03/2005 2:35:51 PM PDT by sittnick (here's no salvation in politics.)
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Since so many teachers get their diplomas from state-run "teachers colleges," they can pay back their total student loans in one year with just a $30,000 paycheck and have money left over. How nice for them. Of course, the taxpayers have already paid for the teachers' education, so I think that all those who attended taxpayer colleges should be taxed higher to show their gratitude.


10 posted on 07/03/2005 2:36:45 PM PDT by kitkat
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I am waiting for the NEA to run a comparison of pay in private schools -- all private schools, not just the silver spoon ones.


11 posted on 07/03/2005 2:38:50 PM PDT by sphinx
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That's funny.

The Hawaii State Teachers' Association (NEA) keeps claiming that all the other states pay their teachers an average of $100,000 -- we need to pay ours twice that just to keep up -- because of the highest cost of living in the world!

The AP writer must be wrong.


12 posted on 07/03/2005 2:39:02 PM PDT by MikeHu
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$15,000 per student is outrageous. Private schools do it for much less per student. The unions are sucking the money for their liberal pet political projects, which is all our taxes, usually via property taxes. How many times do you read a story where the school cuts music, but just hired a new grief counselor? The school boards are always asking for referendums for increased taxes. The gov should get out of education and let private enterprise take over. Good competition is what it will take for the public systems to wake up. If the schools focused teaching kids the basics, math, English, history, etc. instead of all the feel good liberal social programs, like how to wear a condom, or Adam and Steve are a family too, maybe they'd deserve a raise. The district near here gives the teachers 100% health benefits, 3 months off, and they still moan and groan they aren't getting enough.
13 posted on 07/03/2005 2:39:17 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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Good idea, in and in an exchange for dumping tenure protection, and a merit pay scale.


14 posted on 07/03/2005 2:40:18 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: neodad

>"Wonder what his salary is?"<

Too much.


15 posted on 07/03/2005 2:41:48 PM PDT by 4Liberty (I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than too little. Tom Jefferson)
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***Pay the Teachers 15,000. until they show that students can read and write ENGLISH***

During publicity over how ridiculously easy the teacher's exam is to pass, a teacher from a nearby city wrote to the paper to protest. She started out by saying, "I and my colleagues..." and followed that up with other obvious mistakes in grammar. So from whom will our children learn to speak and write English correctly?


16 posted on 07/03/2005 2:42:00 PM PDT by kitkat
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Hell will freeze over before that happens (i.e., before unions run an efficiency report, with private vs public institutions examined, side by side.)


17 posted on 07/03/2005 2:43:19 PM PDT by 4Liberty (I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than too little. Tom Jefferson)
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How about this for a goal........

Kids can read, write,and do arithmetic by the third grade.

18 posted on 07/03/2005 2:45:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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I am waiting for the NEA to run a comparison of pay in private schools -- all private schools, not just the silver spoon ones.

The pay in the "silver spoon" ones is crappy, too. I went to a middle of the road prep school (Cheshire, CT), but the teachers at Choate School in my home town of Wallingford, CT weren't paid well, either. Plus, they often get to be hall monitors, coaches on the side, etc. Some of them did get nice little houses provided, though.
19 posted on 07/03/2005 2:46:37 PM PDT by sittnick (here's no salvation in politics.)
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While the cost of living for everybody else is the same, the cost of living for teachers is ten times as high -- and needs to be adjusted accordingly -- according to our newspaper writers.


20 posted on 07/03/2005 2:49:30 PM PDT by MikeHu
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