Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

[Big Jake]

Looks like a school related "field trip"... I noticed the Norwegian flag on their name badges... they must have taken one of the many Norwegian Cruise ships.

[hershey]

Where are Mom and Dad VDS while all this sleaze goes on with their kids? It's mindboggling. Then Joran has his own little apt. beside the house, or joined, but separate. He's off driving around without a license, gambling and drinking, out at all hours of the night, and nobody does a bedcheck on him? How come? Okay, mom was in Holland, but Papa was there and had absolutely no control over this kid. In another universe, Joran probably killed somebody in a DUI.

[spectre]

Marianne Croes just told Dan Abrams that Paulus Van Der Sloot is a SUSPECT in the actual disappearance of Natalee, that he was somehow involved.

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[Big Jake]

Call Ken Star!!!

[stlnative]

LOL... the temp is still rising today. It has been awful here with little rain and no rain in the forecast for the next week with temps 95F or higher.

MSNBC is doing Natalee Case coverage right now

[Carolinamom]

The Abrams Report (MSNBC) now on and questioning Marianne Croes. Joran and the 2 brothers to be questioned again tomorrow. Also showed pic of Croes.

[stlnative]

I see Joran as being Daddy's altered ego. If you look at it this way then you see how Joran was able to do the things he did.

[Palladin]

Interesting Opinion about Ex-Pats in the Caribbean;

(From Riehl's Forum):

I live in the Caribbean as an Expat. The van der Sloots are Expats living in Aruba. The attitude of people coming from mainland countries to island nations to live is the key here. Why do they leave family and friends behind to move so far away? Well the obvious is the weather but there is more to the story. There is opportunity for mediocre people to make something of themselves. Expats also tend to have an arrogance about them, a false sense of superiority. They view themselves as the "smart, sophiticated" people coming from the big country to help the poor stupid island people.

The comment Anita VDS made about Paul giving 15 years of service to the island yada yada yada.... I have heard that beofre from Expats who think their (you know what) doesn't stink. They act like they have scaified so much to to come there and help the "poor" people of the island when in fact they have have no sense of altrsism at all they have only been their to line their pockets. More than likely PVDS would never have been able to reach the professional level he has in Aruba back home in Holland. If you compare his abilities to the main stream back home he wouldn't measure up. But in the Caribbean he feel he is a big shot. That is why their son, raised as an Expat, has the arrogant attitude that he does.

Now all that said when trouble occured their "superior" attitude made them belive they could just cover up the mess and use their "influence" to pressure the locals, which is what was happening the first week. They throught the stupid locals would never figure it out.

I am sure since Anita was away, Paul was having himself some fun and went out with Joran. Expat men are notorious for running around and boozing while their wives go on the long trips back home to visit family or on on shopping trips to the USA (can't buy that much on a small island and the US isn't that far away).

I live this life so I know. I recognize it for what it is. I hope they pay for all their sins which are many, and may the Aruban people rid themselves of this vermen. Other Expats be on notice that you ned to change your attitude.

Posted by: caribbean girl | June 24, 2005 09:06 AM

[bonfire]

I'm now believing Beth that Natalee was at the VDS house.

[stlnative]

alter ego, not altered (I gotta quit watching TV and reading the computer screen at the same time.)

[Palladin]

Tsk! Tsk! Don't you know they are all good boys, and straight A students at ISA?

;)

[sarasota]

Thanks. I'll tune in.

[stlnative]

LOL... that is such a joke, how hard can that school be? :-)

[Carolinamom]

I haven't read anything that leads me to believe that Joran ever did school work. With all his partying, when would he have had the time? Incidentally, what college was he planning to attend?

[spectre]

I think so too. But, I can't figure out why Paulus would have a Premeditation charge against him? Unless he engineered the whole scheme to get rid of her or her body?

I'm drawing a blank on the "premeditation" angle :(

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[sarasota]

Try to imagine trying to get travel in the 100 degree heat and your interstate is locked down. That's what they're reporting now in St. Louis.

[sarasota]

Believe it was a college in Florida.

[the Deejay]

Flagler(?) College in FL, I think.

A sports scholarship.

[bonfire]

I'm thinking the same about premed. Must be ridding of the body. But what do we know?? :)

[stlnative]

alter ego
n.
Another side of oneself; a second self.
An intimate friend or a constant companion.
A very close and trusted friend who seems almost a part of yourself.

Daddy lives through Joran - teaches him his bad habits, encourages them - Daddy's ego gets pumped up by seeing Joran do the the things that Daddy taught him.

Maybe Daddy wanted some action while mommy was away.