Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

[cajungirl]

yep. That is the context, not the cause of the "crime". That is why everyone lies. And that may be how the case is solved. When those who really run the place decide to give up Joran and his sweaty father.

[Dark Skies]

Here is a close-up of a pic that Brigette posted last night. Look at those eyes. Not only no remorse, but a kind of pride. At the extreme end of sociopathic personalities is one that not only feels no guilt, but actually takes pleasure from torturing and killing. Look at those eyes. He is pleased with himself.

[SueRae]

ping

[cajungirl]

I saw the clip of his transfeer. He is enjoying his fame. I swear, he looked pleased as punch and triumphant. He knows he will walk.

[USF]

Thanks for the ping DS...

[No Surrender No Retreat]

MAWG, it's time for some in the POTUS/State Department to stop giving billions/worrying the PA muslims. Time to stop kissing Mehico's illegals asses,(Vincente Fox) and do something for a Americans.(The Holloways&Natalee)

Maybe if Natalee were a muslim(terrorist) or an illegal alien we would see more concern/action from our POTUS and State Department.

I know some may disagree, but there will be hell to pay for some of these(unconcerned politicans)at the ballot box next time. President Bush, America is calling for your leadership, power and intervention in this debacle of injustice. What say you!!! NSNR

[maggief]

http://blogsfornatalee.com/?p=95

June 30, 2005
Carin Janssen Interviewed by Martin Savidge (VIDEO)
Posted by Ian @ 12:40 am EST

On Scarborough tonight, Martin Savidge interview chief prosecutor Caren Janssen to talk about the information the Aruban government has and doesn’t have. Janssen talks about the evidence they have and what they are doing with it.

Download the video of the interview here.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Shades of Robert Chambers.

[sarasota]

But the Holiday Inn story is a lie.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

PVDS will probably be the next president of Aruba.(Logic) He was responsible for stopping an innocent Aruban Boy(Joran) from becoming a (victim) of the American Jim Crow Vigilante Justice mentality that prevails in America to this day.(Sarcasm)NSNR

[sodpoodle]

Your fine sense of reasoning will be missed. More careful reading and writing such as yours is a valuable asset on this forum.

There are many of us who just jump in and write one-liners where the point of view is not always clearly stated. Or read other comments too quickly.

I promise to try harder and hope to see you soon.
sp

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I believe it is just professional jealousy on o'really's part. I noticed his condescending attitude towards Great myself. NSNR

[No Surrender No Retreat]

The truth always hurts, and causes charaltans(trolls)to flee.I hope we never have to depend on (those people) to defend our country in time of war. NSNR

[spectre]

"I just do NOT understand why they cannot find her.

Maybe because she is buried on private property where no one would search?

We now know that they aren't drilling Joran 11 hours a day, contrary to what Marianne Croes, (or someone like her), has said.

So WHY would friends of PVDS treat this boy with kid gloves? Maybe Paulus has something on them, that he threatened to reveal if his son went down? IOW's he's got something on them that could get the lot of them fired?

I'm grasping here, Howlin.

sw

[daybreakcoming]

Having spent time on Cayman, I agree with you. The locals do know each other and there is an undercurrent known only to them
I am not a conspiracy fan but this is beginning to smell.

[hershey]

Dropping in late, and sorry if this was hashed over earlier... my computer was cranky, but last night Greta mentioned the timeline of events and said she had to check her notes, but said Joran and the 'boys', perhaps with help from PVDS, came up with the first lie before the news was out that Natalee hadn't made the flight home. Before the first news cycle, in other words, it wasn't on tv or in the papers, so if innocent, why would they think they needed a cover story unless they knew N was dead? If the timeline is solid, and if they are innocent, why the lie about the HI? The timeline angle is crucial, and I hope Greta has more on this tonight.

[beyond the sea]

Yes..... he looks like Willie Sutton when they asked him why he robbed banks....... he said, "because that's where the money is." Sutton was a much nicer guy than this arrogant punk. Sutton had a pretty decent excuse....... the depression.

[Peach]

This is either one of the most bumbled cases I've seen in a long time or PVDS has friends in high places.

It sounds like the father was not interrogated at all, from some posts I read last night. Considering that a witness has said the father coached the kids, this is just unbelievable.

And I wonder what Beth meant the other day that she'd go to the media if additional arrests aren't made. She has been talking to the media right along.

Will check in later...

[maggief]

Transcript:
'Scarborough Country' for June 29

http://preview.msnbc.msn.com/id/8417073/

Transcript:
'The Abrams Report' for June 29:

http://preview.msnbc.msn.com/id/8416795/

[PBRSTREETGANG]

And I wonder what Beth meant the other day that she'd go to the media if additional arrests aren't made. She has been talking to the media right along.

For the most part, she hasn't been all that critical of the prosecutor and the investigation.

I believe her threat of "go to the media" means she will start opening up about all of the deficiencies in the investigation that she has been privy to that may not be widely known yet.