Posted on 06/19/2005 6:35:16 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
I agree with that. Where I disagree with you is you are just as guilty as Hammersfahr in relating the facts. There is no evidence that she was bulemic and no evidence that low potassium contributed to her cardiac arrest. This is as reported by the ME who conducted the autopsy. In point of fact, the ME stated conclusively that the cause of her cardiac arrest is inconclusive. Nobody knows, not him, not you and not me.
Furthermore, an autopsy can neither confirm nor deny the existence of PVS and the ME should never have gone there because he damn well knows it. I can post scans of people with half of a brain who walk and talk as well as you or I. I can post case histories of people with minmal cortical tissue testing 115 on Stanford Binet.
Here's what we do know. The State of Florida ordered the death by dehydration of a citizen, guilty of no crime, without knowing with certainty either of the two issues above. Some support that and some don't. I don't.
Just keeping it real.
What you are missing is that Terri's discharge summary from the hospital detailed her potassium level.
She had cardiac arrest, severely low potassium (3.7 is low enough to make you 2x more likely to have cardiac arrest (which is not a heart attack) hers was a 2.0,
- she was malnourished and low in calcium
- Classic profile of a bulimic, especially added to the fact that she faught a life-long weight problem, going from ~250 lbs at age 18 to 110-120 in '90, and was seeing and infertility doc, and missing her periods. (the major malpractice suit of the 2 was for his not noticing the signs - he hadn't taken a blood chemisty)
Also note that bulimics lose up to 30% of their bone mass in a single year.
http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/Humana%20Discharge%20Summary%20050990.pdf
And what you are missing is the ME's report and a knowledge of the effects of emergent care on K levels and the fact that her K levels returned to normal immediately after the cessation of that emergent care indicating no systemical problem with her potaassium and thus no diagnosis of bulemia can be taken seriously. Just the facts Peach. If we all stick to them things would go a lot smoother.
I wouldn't know where to start.
When Terri was admitted to the hospital, her potassium levels (as you can see in the link of the discharge summary I provided) were severely depleted.
A lawsuit was lost based on this fact.
The ME stated quite clearly that your claims are bogus and unprovable yet you keep repeating them. Why?
But don't take my word for it, read the autopsy report.
I have read the autopsy report. And I'm pointing out what Terri's Discharge Summary said when she was released from the hospital, as well as the doctors who were sued said about neglecting to run blood tests on her and catching her very low potassium levels which likely resulted in her cardiac arrest.
Whether 15 years later a pathologist can tell whether someone had cardiac arrest, I don't know.
But I do think that it's quite interesting that her Discharge Summary and doctors who testified under oath at multiple trials are discounted, while every conspiracy theory to come down the pike but can't be proven, are taken at face value.
A pathologist can't tell if there had been a cardiac arrest - he can only go by the medical records for such an event. No scarring of the cardiac muscle, as would have occured in a heart attack.
Thanks for that information. Since Terri never had a heart attack, which is entirely different from cardiac arrest, which she DID have, now I understand about the scarring which was absent.
Peach, the discharge summary has been removed from terrisfight.org. I was looking for it yesterday. I had printed out a copy, but not sure if I still have it.
"But don't take my word for it, read the autopsy report."
Actually, the coroner describes the Bulemia as being "unlikely."
He further noted that her two prescribed medications were NOT described in the police report, the screenings for drugs would not have detected other potassium depleting substances, caffiene was not tested for - but caffiene toxicity was unlikely UNLESS some sort of suppliment or pill containing caffiene was consumed.
While I appreciate your concern for accuracy, it's not an absolute that she was OR wasn't Bulemic.
Well said, Peach.
It's amazing to me that this person still gets any ink.
I just realized that about the discharge summary the other day.
It's summarized in the Wolfson report as well:
http://home.comcast.net/~trinity_tx/wolfson.htm
Well, I think we should just pretend we're Princess Grace. Just because we said so. LOL
Proof? Who needs proof these day :-)
Also, the Wolfson report and family and friends testified under oath that Terri drank 10-15 glasses of iced tea a day. That much caffeine depletes the potassium to seriously unhealthy levels.
That's certainly true in this case. Among many others.
Good morning. Good to see you again.
Here ya go. :) Terri's discharge summary:
http://home.comcast.net/~trinity_tx/terrischiavo/Humana_Discharge_Summary_050990.pdf
Thank you, ma'am. :)
interesting, thanks. Wonder if Hammesfahr ever commented on this.
Sad too, that you do not let the facts of this case stand in your way.
Your position has been refuted by the facts. The facts of the autopsy and the facts about the paid quack you used to support them. Kindly address that refutation before your change the subject.
He said, "Was Terri dying? The answer is NO she wasn't, so she was killed."
Leave it to Brit Hume to put it in perspective......
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