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Congratulations Michael, now please, get help
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 14, 2005

Posted on 06/14/2005 7:32:32 AM PDT by Asphalt

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To: SweetPrincess
The child's mother was only a scapegoat for the jurors.

Exactly! I think it is possible that jurors could believe that Michael Jackson is very likely a child molester, but that there just wasn't enough evidence to convict in this case. But I don't believe these jurors were that high minded.

Making a clear decision to release a child molester to maintain the integrity of the judicial system would be a wrenching choice to make. Anyone truly faced with that wouldn't go running around on tv giving interviews. If it were me, I'd lock myself in the house for days praying that I made the right choice. And when the molester got to some other kid, I'd blow my brains out.

461 posted on 06/14/2005 2:32:35 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: NathanR

Wrong... There was a book of naked boys admitted into evidence. It was titled "The Boy".


462 posted on 06/14/2005 2:34:14 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: the Deejay

Well, it is my opinion that she exposed him as a liar and extremely weak. I was mortified that they had chosen him as the foreman. It should have been Ray the engineer, who is thoughtful and intelligent and unfortunately allowed himself to be bulldozed by lesser minds.


463 posted on 06/14/2005 2:35:14 PM PDT by somerville
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To: Dianna

I've seen other child molesters get convicted on less than this. There was a mountain of evidence. I believe that these jurors were intimidated by the celebrity factor, plain and simple. Boy-oh-boy I wish some East Coast jurors had gotten the chance to have a crack at this case. Who knows ? Perhaps one day they will.


464 posted on 06/14/2005 2:37:37 PM PDT by somerville
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To: the Deejay

Hey, I just read on Drudge that Jackson has been invited to the Live8 concert for a "sensational comeback". They're not too slow in trying to rehab one of their own MSM elite, are they?


465 posted on 06/14/2005 2:39:43 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes

I may be an optimist, but I believe there are a couple of boys who are victims out there who are waiting in the wings. Fueled by anger at this verdict they might, just might, bravely come forward. I refuse to be a cynic (although it would be easier, given this idiotic verdict)

I have been told by a sex crimes detective that an average pedophile molests on average at least 20 kids in his lifetime, and often more.


466 posted on 06/14/2005 2:41:42 PM PDT by somerville
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To: somerville

I don't agree, alas. I don't think this jury gives a damn. I don't think they care if Jackson was molesting these children or not. I think they'd give him a pass even if he did it right in front of them. I truly don't believe they care. This was an opportunity to stop this man from molesting children, and they let it go. WHy? They just don't care. They'd rather go on TV and try to make some money for themselves. Too much of America has become a nation of crooks , weasels and degenerates.


467 posted on 06/14/2005 2:42:18 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: sinkspur

If you have actually HEARD these people talking today, I think you would have to be honest and just admit...they ARE morons. Frankly even if they agreed with me, well...I'd be kinder in my verbiage, but these folks are not Mensa candidates. They're a bunch of witless dummies -whether they agree with me or not. A moron is a moron.


468 posted on 06/14/2005 2:43:39 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes
The "reasonable" jury is all over TV claiming they have given MJ a "stern" warning not to do it again. Their rationalizations are pained at best, and silly sounding at worst.

What a farce.
469 posted on 06/14/2005 2:44:54 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: NathanR

Do you think it's okay for a 45 year old man to admit to sleeping in the same bed with young boys he's not related to? If you do, how could this be stopped? Or should it be stopped?


470 posted on 06/14/2005 2:46:22 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes
Sensational comeback??? With all his back problems and Lord knows what else?

Or will he have a miracle recovery?

471 posted on 06/14/2005 2:47:52 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: somerville
It should have been Ray the engineer, who is thoughtful and intelligent and unfortunately allowed himself to be bulldozed by lesser minds.

Nobody was "bulldozed." The very first vote taken was unanimous: not guilty on all counts. So all jurors had come to the same conclusion, independently.

472 posted on 06/14/2005 2:49:02 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: somerville

There was a lot of evidence. As I've said before, what consistitutes sufficient evidence or proof is entirely subjective and can vary from jury to jury. I don't believe there is any amount of evidence that would have swayed this jury. I think they started off - most of them believing he was not guilty and I think they maintained that belief right to the end. It would not have mattered in the least what evidence the DA presented or not. People have been convicted of molestation on far less evidence and with a far less prominent reputation. Evidence is totally in the mind of the beholder. The bottom line is that Jackson is an open child molester and several members of this jury KNOW that and have ADMITTED that and they let him go anyway when they had sufficient evidence to hold him on at least some of the minor charges. What they did is INDEFENSIBLE, and his future victims lie on their heads.


473 posted on 06/14/2005 2:50:33 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: roses of sharon
LOL!!! Johnnie Cochran gave mj a warning in 1993.

Ya think mj's going to pay heed to the jury's warning.

Man! That's the funniest thing I've heard from the jury.

474 posted on 06/14/2005 2:51:01 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: blueblazes
If you have actually HEARD these people talking today, I think you would have to be honest and just admit...they ARE morons.

Well, I didn't hear any of them, but I will not trust your judgement since you are a biased filter.

475 posted on 06/14/2005 2:51:38 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

So they are all witless cowardly buffoons. That vote in and of itself PROVES that they had not considered the evidence. HOw many charges were there for them to consider? and on the first vote they all voted not guilty on each charge? That can only mean that they did not actually evaluate the evidence. They went with their own biases, which were in favor of Michael Jackson and had been from Day One.


476 posted on 06/14/2005 2:52:09 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: somerville

I am a total cynic, both about this case and this country. I think this case shows the degree to which this country has degenerated in terms of what people find acceptable and in terms of the intelligence level of the populace (and the degree to which the legal system has degenerated as well). Even if more victims came forth, do you think that any DA would actually try Jackson again? I don't. In terms of money, and difficulty of finding the funds and finding a jury that is not positively half-witted, I really don't expect to see him tried again. He has been given a free pass to molest children by this jury.


477 posted on 06/14/2005 2:54:16 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: the Deejay
Is this a Clinton comeback replay?

The DA is Ken Starr, the creepy Christian law enforcer sex obsessed and on a vendetta.

The mother is Linda Tripp, a member of a vast conspiracy with other mothers and children to hurt poor MJ.

Wow, the public, juries and the media are soooo predictable.
478 posted on 06/14/2005 2:57:34 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: the Deejay

I dunno. I would hope this is the end of this sad piece of crap, but somehow I doubt it. It may be the end of his career in this country as he's just too big a butt of jokes. I mean, how can you make a comeback when most people in the country (except for that jury and some nuts outside the courtroom) believe you're a child molester, and you are the butt of every comedian on TV? I don't think that's going to change. He may be still viable overseas, especially in places where they routinely sell their children to make the rent money, however.


479 posted on 06/14/2005 2:57:46 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: roses of sharon

Excellent analogy.


480 posted on 06/14/2005 2:58:54 PM PDT by the Deejay
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