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Seeing Around Corners (proof for the law of unintended consequences?)
6/10/05 | Jonathan Rauch

Posted on 06/10/2005 12:54:05 PM PDT by kjvail

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Long read but fascinating. They seem to come close to the same conclusion that Edmund Burke did 220 years ago without a PC.
1 posted on 06/10/2005 12:54:06 PM PDT by kjvail
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To: kjvail

Do you have a link for this?

Thanks


2 posted on 06/10/2005 12:57:03 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

No I don't actually, crossposted from another board I participate in. That poster didn't give a link.


3 posted on 06/10/2005 1:01:15 PM PDT by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: kjvail

Fascinating is the word.


4 posted on 06/10/2005 1:05:58 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
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To: kjvail

IS this it? http://home.pacbell.net/claydale/corners.htm


5 posted on 06/10/2005 1:09:27 PM PDT by knittnmom
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To: 80 Square Miles

Without reading it in its entirity ya I think that's it. Thanks.


6 posted on 06/10/2005 1:10:08 PM PDT by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: kjvail

Mark for when I have half a day to read. ;-)


7 posted on 06/10/2005 1:11:54 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Children's classic songs updated for Islam "If you're happy and you know it, Go Kaboom!")
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To: kjvail

bttt for later read


8 posted on 06/10/2005 1:12:47 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Try this one: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/jonathan/rauch050802.asp

It appears the original publication was in the April 2002 issue of Atlantic monthly: http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=2&q=http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200204/rauch&e=9711


9 posted on 06/10/2005 1:23:10 PM PDT by brbethke
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To: kjvail

You're welcome.


10 posted on 06/10/2005 1:35:43 PM PDT by knittnmom
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To: kjvail

Great Find!


11 posted on 06/10/2005 1:47:42 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: kjvail

Great stuff. They should model cell behaviour in the same way and see what it tells us about cancer.


12 posted on 06/10/2005 1:52:35 PM PDT by ironcitymike
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To: kjvail

Good post. Social sciences are usually about twenty years or more behind the natural sciences and economics in applying new mathematical insights. PCs and cheap math software seems to be changing that, and the discovery and application of power laws in social sciences is going to be a big thing over the next generation.


13 posted on 06/10/2005 1:53:04 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Back-up career, in case MORS ever flops. LOL.


14 posted on 06/10/2005 2:05:01 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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Do you have a link for this?

Someone else may have already suggested this. I copied the url out of the piece, put it into alltheweb (a search engine) and it took me to Atlantic Monthly, April 2002--the article in question.

It is worth going there to see the graphics as you read the article.

RoK

15 posted on 06/10/2005 2:52:01 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston
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To: kjvail

I remember another simulation study from a while back that modeled insurrection behavior. The upshot of it was a validation of the "boiling frog" approach: each actor has a threshhold where a particular level of oppression will cause him to rebel. If the oppression level is increased too suddenly, the number of actors that go into rebellion gets too high for the security people to control. But if you do things gradually enough, a small enough number of actors has had enough at each level that they can be picked off


16 posted on 06/10/2005 4:56:22 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When peace stands for surrender, fear, loss of dignity and freedom, it is no longer peace.)
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To: kjvail

Truly fascinating. I literally could not stop reading it, it was so compelling. Definitely worth a save for later re-read.


17 posted on 06/10/2005 6:57:29 PM PDT by Utilizer (WinDoze "XXX"ES. Adult-rated, ready for the desktop! It STILL sucks -but you already knew that...)
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To: brbethke
I just found what looks like an article from 1998:

http://chronicle.com/free/v44/i46/46a01701.htm

18 posted on 06/11/2005 12:34:57 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: kjvail

*Bump*


19 posted on 06/11/2005 12:37:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: brbethke
Also (from ~1998):

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~mlittler/artanasazi.htm

20 posted on 06/11/2005 12:42:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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