Posted on 06/10/2005 11:13:37 AM PDT by Always Right
You're enslaved to certain distortions in the economy created by the Stupid Tax, and are fearful of freedom.
Find some courage to break the chains and be free, Always Right.
I thought you said it was SIMPLE??? Why are you throwing around all of those IRS Form numbers??? And sending people to H&R Block or the IRS to do their taxes??
With the FairTax, all of that nonsense goes away.
Are you trying to be funny?
The income tax requires lots of document and government intrusion into the individual. The FairTax eliminates all of that.
The social security program taxes you and maintains records on you now to track your income. (Your benefits are determined by a separate law which can be changed, BTW, to eliminate or change the benefit any time they want.) Those records will still be maintained so that you can collect when you retire.
IF, and ONLY IF, you choose to receive the prebate, will you have to submit your name, address, and the SS numbers of those in your household once a year.
Is that truly the only thing standing in your way -- the choice of words of someone explaining the incredible difference in reporting requirements?
The bill clearly spells out that requirement. Since I find it unlikely that I would register for the prebate, I might commit the horrible sin of saying that there was NO requirement when it is actually quite minimal.
Name, address, SSN.
Even soldiers held captive can give their "name, rank, and serial number' and not violate the oath they took.
Do you know that there are
You are as demented as pigdog -- or short of valid arguments on the more important stuff. The number 30 (or 29.9, if youlike) is derived from the number 23, which is only an estimate, anyway, so you are obsessing worse than Queeg over the strawberries.
The power sought by the FairTaxers is for a return of the power to the people of the United States.
And the conquest we're looking for is one of the people over the social engineers in Washington, DC.
This is wrong how?
Oh, I see - the numnber does not matter, eh??? How about if we use 20% then rather than 23% (or 15%; or 10% ...)??
The conversion from t-i to t-e is a calculation - and it comes out to be 29.87%, not 30 or 30.0 or30.00. The 23% number is the starting point for the calculation and not the other way around. Boosting the t-e artificially as you do is merely more of the dishonestly that permeates the SQL bunch.
You also make the mistake of thinking that EVERY time the doctor provides a service that it is fully taxable. It isn't.
If the patient has insurance, tax has been paid on that insurance and services provided under that insurance are not taxable, only the co-payment or deductible.
'Preciate your concern ... and I'm NOT Your Lord!!
Such a wunnerful idea. Why don't you send it to the President's Tax Panel?
You guys are incredible! 30 is 29.87 rounded to the nearest integer and perfectly correct. Getting 20,15, or 10 from 29.87 is just outright cheating -- which says something about your other arguments, I think.
-Barry Goldwater
No, you certainly are not.
Are you saying my health insurance premiums are going to have 30% (or 29.87%) added on? This is not something the FT fanatics talk about too loudly.
It is a commentary on the level of government SPENDING.
The only thing you end up repeatedly doing is arguing against the means to make that level of excessive SPENDING as VISIBLE to the American people as is possible.
Mirroring the FairTax would lower the states rates by broadening the base. It would also make their tax system transparent and simple and fair.
That's a good thing.
LOL! What's this "you" crap? It's piggy and the ancient one who are arguing that it is 29.87% and not 30%. I'm just falling out of my chair laughing at them!
I think that greater visibility of the tax burden is a good thing (withhlding could be the worse thing that hapened to the country), but I can't stomach the BS that is sprayedd around by the acolytes of the Fair Tax proposal.
I think that greater visibility of the tax burden is a good thing (withholding could be the worse thing that hapened to the country), but I can't stomach the BS that is sprayed around by the acolytes of the Fair Tax proposal.
You already do.
... especially when I know there is no way in hell I can reduce my prices more than 10%.
And your drywall guys can, and your framers can, and your lumber yard can, etc. So there will be enough room to reduce prices so that the nrst brings prices back to where they are today. In fact, because there are SO many links in the production chain of a new home, it is likely that this industry will enjoy one of the bigger cost savings.
Competing against existing homes that will be 20% cheaper will kill the new home industry.
What makes you think existing homes will be cheaper? The sellers of the existing homes are going to recover all their costs - including the taxes and tax costs they paid when they purchased the home.
Just because no tax is paid to the feds, they seller is dang sure gonna charge whatever he needs in order to recover his costs! (excepting distressed sales).
Good grief I can't believe you're this dense.
Then you should support the only plan on the table that brings the entire tax burden out in the open, and to one place...the point of retail sale.
Nothing else even comes close.
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