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Top 11 Secrets of a National Retail Sales Tax
Various | 6-10-05 | Always Right

Posted on 06/10/2005 11:13:37 AM PDT by Always Right

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To: pigdog
Not at all, the 30.0% number is not correct and you surely know it.

He said 30% not 30.0%. If he rounded to one decimal place it should be 29.9%, but you are really grasping, IMHO.

821 posted on 06/12/2005 1:21:36 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

I dunno, Rongie - most perople think that when something is not right it is wrong. I guess your value system doesn't function that way, though.


822 posted on 06/12/2005 1:22:45 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: EternalVigilance
Translation: You want a simpler implementation of one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto, aka the income tax.

That would be a progressive income tax. I favor a flatter tax, and liked what Reagan did. That have mucked it up significantly in the last 20 years.

823 posted on 06/12/2005 1:23:35 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Blood of Tyrants
NRST will NOT leave us with a "single tax." It will become VAT and will be hidden from the population. Not only that but do you really think the government will give up all it s other taxes? Like the gas tax? Britain still has its gas tax and it provides 11% of the revenue because when the price goes up folks tend to blame it on the oil companies. Europe still has most of the taxes it ever had. Plus its sales tax. Thăt is the way of government.
824 posted on 06/12/2005 1:27:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: FreedomCalls

Change your name.

Freedom is calling and you are doing your best to send it away.


825 posted on 06/12/2005 1:28:15 PM PDT by Badray
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To: Always Right; pigdog

I think most sane people would accept 30% as a round figure for 29.87%.

Why would any sane person allow a business to round a tax rate up and end up paying more than is due?

826 posted on 06/12/2005 1:28:48 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: pigdog
I dunno, Rongie - most perople think that when something is not right it is wrong. I guess your value system doesn't function that way, though.

There is nothing wrong or misleading or incorrect about rounding 29.870129 to 30. There is nothing that says you must round to two decimal places, especially since the 23% number does not contain more figures. Now if I were making a calculation where I wanted 4 or 5 significant figures, I would take it out to six places or so. But for discussion purposes, 30% is perfectly correct and an honest representation.

827 posted on 06/12/2005 1:29:05 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

No, they can't Rongie. There is no provision in the bill for that sort of nonsense. There would first have to be shown some legal basis that the taxpayer was involved in some activity outside of the law before he could be hauled into court.

The taxpayer (the consumer) has far more legal protection - and legal rights - under the FairTax than under the present tax system.


828 posted on 06/12/2005 1:29:16 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right
Everything I said was true.


829 posted on 06/12/2005 1:29:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: Radioactive

Who decides how much money to create? The govt clearly has an incentive to create more money, thereby not only increasing their revenues, but causing galloping inflation.


830 posted on 06/12/2005 1:29:56 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Always Right
I favor a flatter tax, and liked what Reagan did. That have mucked it up significantly in the last 20 years.

Thanks for posting such a resounding refutation of your own 'point'.

831 posted on 06/12/2005 1:32:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: Always Right

You obviously have NO conception of what most people go through in filing those "simple" tax returns...


832 posted on 06/12/2005 1:32:13 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: ancient_geezer
Why would any sane person allow a business to round a tax rate up and end up paying more than is due?

LOL, you guys are losing it. Arguing about rounding 29.87 to 30. This is too funny. If that is what you are going to bitch about, I will take it.

833 posted on 06/12/2005 1:33:44 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: ancient_geezer

Sane???


834 posted on 06/12/2005 1:34:48 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right
Defending industries like the auto and homebuilding industry may be in my self-interest, but I also beleive it is neccessary for the future of this county. I love this country and think overall it is the greatest country ever and will continue to be so.

The income tax hardly qualifies as one of the things that made this country great.

And the country remains great in spite of, not because of, the Stupid Tax.

835 posted on 06/12/2005 1:34:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: pigdog
You obviously have NO conception of what most people go through in filing those "simple" tax returns...

Taking their W-2's and 1099i's to HR Block to file? You can actually go to the IRS office and they will help you for free if you wish. It is probably better, because they will take the time to fill out the Earned Income Tax credit if you qualify. Most file a 1040 EZ.

836 posted on 06/12/2005 1:36:37 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

You can twist and turn 'till you're blue in the face, but Wrong is Wrong, Rongie. And 29.87 ain't the same as 30.00 or 30.0 or 30. Why not round it DOWN to, say, 25???


837 posted on 06/12/2005 1:37:09 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog

The 30% number is correct. Making it 30.0% is technically not correct only if the 23% is 23.0%, although your making a mountain out of a molehill in this case would be rather demented. However, since the 23% number is an estimate, only, the 29.9% number is no more accurate than the 23.0% number.


838 posted on 06/12/2005 1:37:58 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Phantom Lord

People who push something like NRST with the fanaticism of the FairTaxers are usually looking for power and conquest- my way or die! and "my way" is totalist.


839 posted on 06/12/2005 1:38:00 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: pigdog

Oh, my Lord, you are in need of your medication!


840 posted on 06/12/2005 1:38:54 PM PDT by expatpat
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