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Big drop in Seattle for Army recruits (Blue state recruiting)
Seattle Times ^ | June 6, 2005 | Nick Perry

Posted on 06/07/2005 2:26:29 PM PDT by 68skylark

Army recruiters in the Seattle area are falling so far behind their goals that since last October, they've enlisted only about one-third of the young men and women they'd hoped for.

Recruitment during the Iraq war has proved a challenge for the Army nationwide, and statistics show enlistments are widely below expectations. But recruiting numbers have been unusually low since fall in the Seattle area, where only 94 people have signed up in the past seven months, far short of an Army goal of 266.

"There are a variety of reasons, and one of them is the war," said Bill Pearce, a spokesman for the Army Recruiting Battalion in Seattle. "There is a whole different attitude in a country that has been at war for two or three years. That has a cumulative effect over time."

Pearce said an improving state economy may be diverting some potential Seattle recruits into other jobs, although he added that a slight uptick in recruitment has been seen in recent months.

Meanwhile, recruiters are coming under more scrutiny. The high schools that recruiters rely upon for access to hundreds of young people are grappling with divergent sentiments over the war.

During the summer, Seattle Public Schools will likely write its first formal guidelines for all recruiters who set foot on school grounds, in part to address the increasing debate among students, parents and teachers over the military's role on campus.

According to Amy Hagopian, who co-chairs the Parent-Teacher-Student Association at Garfield High School, the problem with recruiters is that they tend to glamorize military life and minimize the dangers. Having them show up at a school implies a tacit endorsement of the war by that school, she said.

"They hand out pens, pencils, squeeze-balls and refrigerator magnets," Hagopian said. "They make it seem like some product in the marketplace that's not related to killing."

But military recruiters say they are simply providing students with information about a rewarding and honorable career option in much the same manner as recruiters from colleges and businesses.

"There are a lot of very patriotic people in this community," said Sgt. Jon Chau, a spokesman with the Marine Corps recruiting station in Seattle. "The bottom line is that we are able to talk to everybody who might have an interest or could have an interest in serving."

Hot spot for recruiting

Representatives from the Army and Navy recruiting stations in Seattle said high schools remain the most important location for finding new recruits — ahead of job fairs, community colleges and malls.

Recruitment is a key in maintaining an effective fighting force in the age of an all-volunteer military. The draft ended in 1973, and the Iraq war is the nation's longest and deadliest conflict since then.

High-school recruiting takes two main forms: fliers sent to hundreds of students' homes, and face-to-face contact on campus. At some schools, recruiters engage students in competitions or hand out small gifts. With students who show some interest, recruiters may call later and take them out for a meal, on a tour of a military base or for a training workout with enlisted troops.

But the Army, in particular, has struggled here over the past year to sign up new soldiers.

Along with the lower-than-expected numbers reported by the regular Army, the figures for the Army Reserve in the area between Oct. 1 and April 30 are even weaker: 25 people signed up, compared with a goal of 97 recruits.

The Seattle recruiting efforts represent a steep decline from the previous year ending Sept. 30, when the Army managed to achieve more than two-thirds of its mission: 221 enlisted from a target 328; and 97 reserves recruited from a target of 144. The recruiting area extends from Shoreline to Federal Way and includes Bellevue.

Nationally, the Army also is falling short of its recruiting targets, but not nearly so dramatically as in Seattle. The Army aimed to recruit 80,000 people in the year beginning Oct. 1 and is so far falling about 16 percent short of that goal. The Army has boosted some incentives, now offering up to $20,000 in signing bonuses and $70,000 toward college tuition.

During a Pentagon press conference last month, Maj. Gen. Michael Rochelle, the Army's recruiting commander, said, "Today's conditions represent the most challenging conditions we have seen in recruiting in my 33 years in this uniform."

Rochelle said that soon after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, 22 percent of "influencers" — people advising youth on a career choice — recommended the military. That figure has dropped to 14 percent.

The Seattle recruiting problem appears confined to the Army. The Navy and Air Force in this area report hitting their goals so far this year, mirroring national trends. The Marines have hit state goals this year while falling a little short nationally in recent months.

Recruiters point to a number of possible reasons: The Army accounts for more than half of the entire military force. The Air Force and Navy may appear less risky during wartime. And the Marines may have a built a stronger cachet among some young people, especially in Seattle.

"The pressure on Army services and the Army itself is much more intense," said Pearce, the local recruiting spokesman, because of the higher numbers needed to fill the ranks.

"The Marines have a great PR machine," he added. "I think the Army should do better."

Teens who decide to join the military may encounter hostility as well as admiration. The war, said Mukilteo's Kamiak High School senior Sam Wrzeszcz, is "always a topic right below the surface."

Wrzeszcz, 18, has accepted a full scholarship to Duke University from the Navy Reserve Officer Training Corps. After college, he must serve four years in the Navy.

"Teachers are always bringing it up, students are always bringing it up. One of the bigger things that's happened in our generation is the war," Wrzeszcz said.

His friend Willard Johnson said he's proud of Wrzeszcz, but that other friends have mixed reactions.

"Some of my buddies are total anti-war and sometimes their feelings get in the way. They say to people who are going into the military, 'Why do you want to go and do something like this?' " Johnson said. "Other people are totally proud of him and look up at him for devoting his life to serving the country."

Access stirs controversy

A provision in the 2001 No Child Left Behind Act requires schools to give military recruiters the same campus access offered to other recruiters. Failure to comply can result in the withdrawal of federal funds.

But strong feelings about the Iraq war have made recruiters a flashpoint in local schools. Hagopian and a majority of other members of Garfield High's PTSA last month adopted a symbolic, unenforceable resolution to ban military recruiters from campus. Students from around Seattle later protested outside military recruiting stations.

Holly Ferguson, assistant general counsel for the Seattle School District, is surveying high schools to find out how they handle recruiters. She said preliminary results show that schools are "all over the map" in what they allow, often leaving it up to specialists at career centers to decide.

"We are hearing from students and teachers 'We don't know what to do about this,' " she said. "That says to me that, OK, we need to make some central decisions about guidelines."

This school year marked the first time Seattle Public Schools offered families the opportunity to specifically opt out of military mailings.

Around the region, schools take different approaches. For instance, at Lakes High School in Lakewood, not far from Fort Lewis and McChord Air Force Base, military recruiters visit the school eight times per month. Sometimes they stage pull-up competitions and hand out T-shirts to the winners.

At Bellevue High School, military recruiters tend to come just once in the spring and once in the fall, said Principal Mike Bacigalupi. That's a choice the military makes, he added.

Garfield High career specialist Karin Engstrom said she recently restricted recruiters to one area after becoming concerned they were wandering the campus.

The Seattle district's survey also may shed light on whether schools are being targeted by recruiters. A 2003 Seattle Times survey showed variations in how many graduates enlist from different schools.

Roosevelt, Garfield and Nathan Hale high schools, for instance, all reported a 2 percent or lower rate of graduates enlisting, while Franklin, Evergreen, Rainier Beach and West Seattle high schools reported a 5 percent or greater enlistment rate.

"Anecdotally, we are having our South End schools getting more recruiters," said Ferguson.

Seattle recruiting spokesmen said they're not aware of any targeting and that individual recruiters often decide when to visit a particular school.

Ferguson said she expects to complete a report on her survey results next month and will advise the district to prepare guidelines, which would be ready in the fall. Perhaps the biggest issue, Ferguson said, is ensuring that any printed materials or verbal information is factually accurate and won't mislead students.

Other issues include whether recruiters should be allowed to approach students or should wait for students to approach them, how far recruiters can go in pursuing interested students, what kinds of gifts or incentives they can offer, and where they're allowed on campus.

For Sam Wrzeszcz of Edmonds, the son of a Marine, the Navy means an education, but also uncertainties. "I've always felt that, as citizens, we have to serve our country in some way," he said. "I have no idea what actual life is like in the military. I'll have to wait and see."


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Kim Wrzeszcz laughs as she and her son Sam, center, chat with Navy Cmdr. David Schiffman, who visited Kamiak High School to present Sam with a Navy ROTC scholarship.
ROD MAR / THE SEATTLE TIMES

1 posted on 06/07/2005 2:26:29 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

There are good, patriotic & spirited young people in every part of this country -- red and blue. I'm sorry that the numbers seem a little smaller in blue states -- maybe due to parents and teachers more than to the young people themselves.

Anyway, that just means that those of us in red states need to help get the word out a little more. We can handle this challenge.


2 posted on 06/07/2005 2:28:55 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

What ever happened to all those gays who wanted to serve in the military?


4 posted on 06/07/2005 2:37:00 PM PDT by George Oh Well
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To: Uhhuh35

I tried to re-up in the reserves, and they said I missed by one year...:(

Wonder what my wife would have said to me if they said yes!


5 posted on 06/07/2005 2:37:27 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: 68skylark
"Having them show up at a school implies a tacit endorsement of the war by that school, she said."

Public school = government institution. The school endorses the war by definition. A public school administrator who protests against the war - and against the government by extension - is biting the hand that feeds him/her.

6 posted on 06/07/2005 2:40:48 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: Uhhuh35
Raise the age limit to 45 and I'm back in.

Depending on your state, you may be able to do military service in uniform in a state defense force. I put in 9 years with the one in Indiana -- helping to mobilize National Guard and Army Reserve troops out of Camp Atterbury, Indiana for service all over the world. It's not glamorous, but it's useful work -- and they can often take non-prior service folks up to age 50 or so (with higher limits for those who have prior service).

Just click here for more info: State Guard Association links.

The Coast Guard Auxiliary and Civil Air Patrol also have opportunities to serve, I'm told.

7 posted on 06/07/2005 2:44:30 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: rlmorel

I don't know if you're interested in my comment #7 -- it might be a good "fit" with someone who's willing to put in a bit more service again in uniform.


9 posted on 06/07/2005 2:46:38 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

A drop in investing in our freedom in Seattle is no surprise. Many there feel they are entitled to their freedom simply because they feel that way. I also recognize that many in liberal cities like Seattle are the first to moan, groan, bitch, yell, scratch and scream when their "rights" are violated.
I say screw them all, bring back America's best and let the rest defend themselves in our own streets. Let them talk their way out a beheading on 4th and Pike.


10 posted on 06/07/2005 2:48:36 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: 68skylark
"There are a variety of reasons, and one of them is the war,"

Ya think?

11 posted on 06/07/2005 2:49:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 68skylark
The rationale' that there are a variety of reasons is pure, unadluterated baloney. The conflict in Iraq is the sole reason for the reluctance of high school grads to enlist. We are missing the community spirit that was extant after Pearl Harbor. My view is that the balme for that can be laid at the feet of the stupid concept of an all-volunteer force in time of war; that's just plain crazy. All of the whiz-bang, really neat-o, high priced stuff that Rumsfeld and his yes-guys prefer over boots-on-the-ground has deterred this administration from stepping up to the plate and decalring the obvious namely, that we need a compusory military service act to cover our operational requirements. All of the clap-trap about involuntary servitude is a fool's rationale'. When the chips are down and the nation says it needs the young men, while a few cowards will flee to Canada, the vast majority of those called will answer, train and perform.

That's true as long as: (1) There is no short (like 2 year) period of service; it's for the duration; (2) there is no short and announced rotation policy like the one that lost the SEA dust-up for us; and, most important, (3)no exemptions for students, young married guys, etc. like the ones that caused the public discontent and dissent among those poor and lower socio-economic young men in the Vietnam draft.

Like so many aspects of this administration, it speaks tough and carries a small stick without the resolve to "get 'er done!"

12 posted on 06/07/2005 2:50:37 PM PDT by middie
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To: Uhhuh35

LOL, add ten to that, and we'll make up old guys dragging the rear. They are picky about 33 year breaks in service.


13 posted on 06/07/2005 2:53:44 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: middie

I respectfully disagree. While I have no disagreement with a draft in theory, or with people who were drafted and served very honoroably, there will be no draft for this war. No one in the military wants draftees around them today.


14 posted on 06/07/2005 2:54:21 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Have they tried the Home Depot parking lots?


15 posted on 06/07/2005 2:56:28 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: middie
We are missing the community spirit that was extant after Pearl Harbor

There was a draft during World War II.

16 posted on 06/07/2005 2:57:09 PM PDT by ambrose (...)
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To: Scooter1994
The navy aviation community is not over-manned, it's under resourced. Squadrons are short aircraft, air wings and depots are short on spare parts and the deep water role is not applicable to the current crisis. The worst SecDef in 40 years has allowed the 300 ship Navy that was the floor only a few years ago to deteriorate to less than 240. Our sealift capacity is virtually non-existant and we have allowed the merchant fleet to become a mere recollection of the past. We now rely on foreign flagged vessels; a hell of a way to fight a war and have readiness in the Far east.

Our airlift capacity is likewise reduced to reliance on commandeering civilian airliners to transport troops and critical strategic and tactical supplies. Air Force wings are suffering the same fate as naval aviation support units. SecDef has abandoned the idea of there ever being another conflict calling for main force maneuver units to supply the punch that follows-on the stike forces that special ops provide. The guy is a puppet of the high tech, money contributing, industrialists who can sell him big ticket gadgets at the cost of the eyes and tigger fingers of real soldiers, Marines and sailors. He tolerates no dissent or suggestion that anyone of his bizarre changes in conflict doctrine perhaps may be erroneous and have a dangerous potential for the future.

In 1939-40 we were painting signs declaring a truck to be a "tank" at which soldiers "shot" at it with a broomstick and artillery tubes shooting bags of baking flour. Troops were aiming WW I Springfields and shouting "Bang" because we were without ammo suppliers. Ladies and gentlemen, we are very close to the same status today. We limit aviators (Navy) and pilots (AF) to live firing on very few training flights and ground troops to only live fire for qualification.

Meanwhile, we cut taxes for the wealthy, allow our southern border to be an open door for, who knows what sort of enemy, and examine grandmothers in wheel chairs at airports while allowing all manner of avenues open to anyone intend on killing Americans.

This administration and the idiot in the SecDef chair has turned our priorities on their proverbial heads....

17 posted on 06/07/2005 3:15:55 PM PDT by middie
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To: 68skylark

I'm a bit surprised an article on recruiting in Seattle didn't mention this incident:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-861303.php

- ThreeTracks


18 posted on 06/07/2005 3:55:51 PM PDT by ThreeTracks
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To: Scooter1994
The pentagon is getting rid of as many people as it can in the Navy. Funny how this has not been raised in the media.

I was USAF, and I hear it is dumping people also.

19 posted on 06/07/2005 4:01:18 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: middie

The SecofDef and Administration knows what is going to happen around 2009. Social Security will start goobling up the other revenue in the budget and Bush's Medicare plan will take a big chunk as well. You can't support a world class military and massive social programs. As Europe and Canada shows the military gets the shaft because voters favor the government spending on them instead of the soldiers.

Unless I see massive cuts in our social programs then I see no other outcome than a massive reduction in our military and the ability to wage war. The Chinese will get everything they want if they just wait.


20 posted on 06/07/2005 4:09:52 PM PDT by Swiss
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