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Ark of the Covenant's discovery imminent?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 5/28/05 | Dr. Kelly Hollowell

Posted on 05/29/2005 1:28:15 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
What Vendyl Jones and Jack Chick may say is inconsequential. This is -

Just as the New Covenant surpasses the Old, so the new Ark of the Covenant (Our Lady) is superior to the old. The old Ark contained the word of God inscribed on stone tablets, but the new Ark contained the Incarnate Word of God. The old Ark held the Law that could not justify, but the new Ark held Jesus Christ Who Himself is the eternal New Covenant with God; He Who justifies and saves. Moses placed the manna from the desert before the Tablets in the old Ark of the Covenant, but the new Ark was the repository of the true Manna, the Bread come down from heaven, Jesus Christ the Son of God. The old Ark was made of inanimate materials, but the new Ark is the greatest human person whoever has or ever will live - she whose soul has been adorned by God with a superabundance of the choicest graces.  –from  CatholicCulture.org.  document file

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The Old Testament Ark is a type  of Our Lady.


141 posted on 05/29/2005 9:22:58 PM PDT by Prod Convert (To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths of all the Western stars, until I die......)
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To: wagglebee

Your thinking is getting riciculous. You first post an article about researchers believing that they have pinpointed the location of the Ark. Now you argue that Mary is the Ark. Huh?????


142 posted on 05/29/2005 9:25:35 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Salvation
Yes, I do.

Did you actually get my reference to an old movie?

143 posted on 05/29/2005 9:26:08 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Some people are desperate for whatever they're desperate for," - Bubba Fink)
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To: wagglebee
the Ark is renowned for its mysterious powers.

The Ark has/(had) no powers but the God who ordained it is a perilously Holy God.

144 posted on 05/29/2005 9:29:23 PM PDT by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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To: wagglebee

The left wouldn't believe Jesus Christ himself if he returned.


145 posted on 05/29/2005 9:29:33 PM PDT by mowkeka (If you thought I hated McCain before, I am FURIOUS now!!!!!!!!)
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To: Prod Convert
The Old Testament Ark is a type  of Our Lady.

Absolute total ROT!! Next you'll have her on the Cross. I hope you are held accountable for making that damnable blasphemy.

146 posted on 05/29/2005 9:30:36 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11
No, you are misunderstanding me.

The verse from Revelation (to many people) is referring to the New Covenant, Jesus Christ, which would mean that the ark pictured with Christ (again, to many people) is the Blessed Virgin.

The article is about the Old Testament ark of God's Covenant given to Moses, the Ten Commandments and therefore the ark in the article is the golden ark which held the tablets of stone upon which God inscribed the Law.

147 posted on 05/29/2005 9:32:31 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
TOP SECRET

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148 posted on 05/29/2005 9:33:36 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("I would rather Die on my Feet than Live on my Knees")
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To: Zechariah11

She is called the ark of the covenant, because Jesus, who is both God and man was in her womb for nine months.

When people say the Ark is a type referring to Mary, it's because it was a thing that was where God came to on earth, in a special way.

Jesus, by being carriend in Mary's womb was like God coming to the Ark of the Covenant, God present in a special way, and Mary was the container during that period.

And although the title might not be comfortable to you, we like it.


149 posted on 05/29/2005 9:36:54 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: wagglebee

That clarifies the garbled back and forth. I thoroughly reject your view that the Ark is a type of Mary and consider that an evil interpretation.


150 posted on 05/29/2005 9:38:46 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11
I hope you are held accountable for making that damnable blasphemy.

I am not at all concerned. It is a dogma of the Catholic Church. We do not in the slightest accept your definition of blasphemy. I do hope that you can sometime come to appreciate the Blessed Virgin Mary before you face judgment. Pax Christi.

151 posted on 05/29/2005 9:39:20 PM PDT by Prod Convert (To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths of all the Western stars, until I die......)
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To: Zechariah11

Well .. the issue is simple. Without Jesus, no one from the Old Testament got a straightline path to heaven.

Isaiah said the saints from the Old Testament were waiting in Paradise for the Savior to come. On the cross, Jesus said to the thief - today you will be with me in Paradise.

Without Jesus - nobody got to heaven! Therefore, no matter if the Levites knew the ritual of purification to keep from being destroyed in GOD's presence, or righteousness was accounted unto those with faith - NONE OF THEM COULD GET TO HEAVEN WITHOUT JESUS!! Their spirits were DEAD unto GOD.

They all had to wait in Paradise for Jesus to make the atonement for their sins before they could have entry into heaven.

That was my whole point from the beginning.


152 posted on 05/29/2005 9:39:51 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Zechariah11

I understand that you reject what I said about Mary, and I'm not inclined to debate it. I was merely trying to clarify that I was referring to two different Covenants and two different arks.


153 posted on 05/29/2005 9:41:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Prod Convert

I'm sure all this arguing over Mary is confusing and even laughable to Jewish readers. None of this matters! Love G-d, love others, he's still in control.


154 posted on 05/29/2005 9:46:05 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: wagglebee
If the ark were found... prepared and set-up...
the temple built, proper sacrifices made and God entered therein..

Then GOD is a moron.. (thats what I get out of this..)
Somebody "thinks" God is a moron.. or automaton.. or both..

155 posted on 05/29/2005 9:48:27 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Prod Convert
Luke 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.(emphasis added)

This is one of the verses in Scripture that some will ALWAYS ignore and dispute.

156 posted on 05/29/2005 9:50:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Catholic school taught me that the ark of the covenant was NOT Mary!


157 posted on 05/29/2005 9:51:13 PM PDT by blu (This post edited for brevity.)
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To: blu

Which ark and which Covenant?


158 posted on 05/29/2005 9:52:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: blu

Then they never taught you the Litany of Loreto....


159 posted on 05/29/2005 9:52:48 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: JBlain
None of this matters! Love G-d, love others, he's still in control.

Well, in a certain sense, I agree. But all Christians subscribe to this:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6.

Catholics, Orthodox, and High Church Anglicans also ascribe hyperdulia or special veneration (http://www.secondexodus.com/html/catholicdefinitions/hyperdulia.htm) to the Theotokos, the Blessed Virgin Mary (http://www.disciplesnow.com/catholic/html/article181.html). John Paul II was a great Marian. He ascribed to Mary the saving of his life from Ali Agca's bullet. We find great solace in Mary, through the Rosary. So yes, I'd agree, all this may seem risible to Jews, who don't believe in Jesus, acknowledge Mary as His mother, or believe in "types". It's a very serious matter with Christians, though.

160 posted on 05/29/2005 10:11:53 PM PDT by Prod Convert (To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths of all the Western stars, until I die......)
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