Posted on 05/28/2005 11:26:17 AM PDT by RWR8189
Actually, Joseph Smith instituted polygamy and had more wives than Emma. I thought all Mormons knew that.
I've met Mitt Romney (briefly). He's a charming, charismatic guy. He could get some of the soccer mom, I-like-him-because-he's-good-looking votes in a general election.
But he won't fire up the base, especially being somewhat flaccid on abortion.
Also, as you can see here, too many people are prejudiced against him for his religion, which obviously doesn't affect how he governs, and about which they are truly ignorant.
Most of us do...
It might depend on which version of history you're reading. My father's side of the family is all Mormon. Listening to them talk at family reunions you'd think that every kid in Utah had a different history book to study out of.
My sister married into the Mormon Church and I have remained close to her and her family despite any religious differences.
I have as many political disagreements with Methodists as I do Mormons so why would I reject a Mormon politician just because of his faith? We'll agree on a whole lot more than we disagree.
All that said, I want a presidential candidate that is rock-solid pro-life. I can handle squishies on the issue who don't have the power to appoint judges or write major laws on the subject (i.e. Secretary of State or City Councilman) but I won't support one who for president because his personal beliefs will factor into who he chooses to decide the legal issues.
IOW, I would personally disqualify my support from any potential presidential candidate who I could not feel confident would work to roll back the abortion holocaust within our borders. That's where I have problems with Mr. Romney even though the Mormon Church's position on the issue is very solid.
Of course they can. Romney certainly has. Just one example: the LDS Church is the fiercest defender of the Boy Scouts from the infiltration of gay activism. Romney stated very publicly that he was of a different mindset.
Now, it is true that LDS members who are social liberals tend to fall into inactivity with respect to their church affiliation. There is no shortage of such LDS members in Utah. Salt Lake mayor Rocky Anderson is a prime example.
Ok folks I didn't read the whole thing but did it mention the name of the planet where the mormon god and his wife procreate making human babies???
As far as I can tell Romney hasn't allowed his religion to influence the way he's run as governor. I personally think the Mormon church is whacky on many levels, but it seems to me that holding his religion against him is something that liberals would do.
Or, did it mention that the mormon loyalty lies with the church first, with no exception, including loyalty to country? If anyone thinks that Romney would NOT be unduly influenced by the general authorities in Salt Lake you are mistaken.
But, all this will come out if Romney enters the primary battle.
Did I miss it or did the real reason that some people will not vote for Mormans come out in the article.
Some people think that Mormans are not Christian.
Anyone who knows the official LDS Church position on several important issues and Romney's position on those same issues knows that Romney does not take orders from Salt Lake City.
On balance, Romney is a social liberal. And for that reason I cannot support him.
Yes lets keep the facts straight.
Joseph Smith died like he lived. leading a mob or running from one. He also shot back, no lamb to the slaughter, he shot three and killed two of the mob. I like that part.
um, a heretic is a person who holds beliefs inconsistent with Christianity.
Relying on Webster's for a theological term is like going to Hardee's for a elaborate romantic dinner.
But when the prophet of the LDS Church takes a solid stance on something political, the members have to obey (regardless of their politics).
It's not like the Catholic Church were you kindda obey what you like and disregard what you don't like.
If the Mormon prophet tells you his stance on a political issue (the Boy Scouts not being a good example), you have to obey. You cannot be pro-choice and Mormon. You cannot be pro-gay marriage and Mormon.
It would only take one question to kill any Mormon's chances of being president: If the prophet of your church ordered you to attack the Ayatollah in Iran, would you do it? Either way, he risks alienating someone (his Mormon base or the born-again base). I'm not saying this has to be the exact question, but you get the point.
Like, I said, people don't like the idea of someone running the scene from backstage.
I'm not saying the Mormon prophet would do this. I'm just saying it would appear that way and thus take away any chance for Romney.
Romney is a RINO and politically to the left of the current administration.
Interesting (and long) piece on him. You know he can knocked McChesse out early by winning or placing a strong second in N.H and Taking Michign with his family name (by the way Dems fear him because of hte michign factor I here.) But He would stuggle in the southern states with Allen and Frist in the race. Will need Rudy and McCain out by the first supertuesday to run it up big in NY, CA, Ohio, ect on the first supertuesday to win.
You can count me, as well as the rest of the conservative Christians that make up the majority of the GOP, in strong opposition to a Romney candidacy. He'll get killed in the south by the "God" voters. Other than that, he'll probably do well in New England with New Hampshire at the back door. However, I would like to see someone like Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC), Representative Mike Pence (R-IN), or Former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore run. Just my two cents.
OK. I might privately agree with you regarding this theological questions.
But - if it came down to it - WHO would you rather have as a neighbor - a Mormon - or a "Latter-Day" American hedonist pagan?
And what if he was running against a Stalinist wearing a dress (you know who I mean)?
I would hope your 'being of the 17%' might be expressed in your primary vote, but not in November (should the man somehow win the GOP nomination).
Because I worked in a company run by a bunch of em and they ripped me off and tried to ruin me after using my ideas.
All in their bland, superficially nice way of course. I wasn't on the inside, so I was on the outside - in a company of 10 people that made millions. It surely wasn't me that got tithed 10 percent.
It could have been some other group like Indonesians, Buddhists, Hare Krishnas or something like that, but it just happened to be LDS people.
So, once burned, thrice shy.
BTW, this will be my last posting on this topic on this thread.
I figure he would have to be one; he was elected in another country after all.
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