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Voters to decide on historic cross
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| May 21, 2005
| By James Lambert
Posted on 05/21/2005 9:58:14 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: needsomereason
P.S. As to the apology thing: NUTS
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posted on
05/21/2005 10:57:09 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
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To: needsomereason
That's a pretty bad argument considering that cross has been their longer than we've had "under god" in our pledge of allegiance.
Read the first amendment.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
Now if you truely believe that we need to get rid of the cross based off of that then I submit to you that we need to demolish almost all of our national monuments in Washington DC because of Christian and Masonic symbols.
To: needsomereason
No, that's just stupid. Pretty much every other city or town in California would have to change its name in that case.Pretty much every other city or town in California would have to change its name in that case.
Okay, but if it were practical, don't you think those cities and towns should change their names?
What if San Diego were the only city in the U.S. named for a Christian figure, and no impractical precedent was being set...shouldn't San Diego then change its name, just on principle?
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posted on
05/21/2005 10:59:28 PM PDT
by
T. Buzzard Trueblood
("I never got a job from a poor man." - Larry Gatlin)
To: needsomereason
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posted on
05/21/2005 10:59:51 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
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To: BigFinn
![](http://www.reagan.navy.mil/Nov_b/images/041111-N-4776G-075%20copy.jpg)
Mt. Soledad Veterans War Memorial - November 11, 2004.
To: needsomereason
You are absolutely correct- I misread. I thought that you were talking about "separation or church and state". Your reply was not incorrect.
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:06:20 PM PDT
by
de Buillion
(Jerusalem, 1099)
To: bahblahbah
Wouldn't forcing someone to take down a cross be in violation of
"prohibiting the free exercise thereof."? Maybe it's just me but I've never heard a logical answer from a lib on that.
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:06:40 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
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To: needsomereason
...I disagree that the US was founded as a "Christian" country....Founding Fathers seem to have intentionally avoided any mention of "god" Article. VII. The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America
Just whose Lord were they referring to?
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:07:49 PM PDT
by
gdc314
To: needsomereason
The only apologies needed here are from those who were supposed to have taught you the history of this country and obviously failed miserabley. Read the document slowly. Or stay in Europe. Your choice.
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:08:20 PM PDT
by
Adrastus
(If you don't like my attitude, talk to someone else.)
To: BigFinn
The people sign petitions to get it on the ballad.
No, on a BALLOT.
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:09:10 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: needsomereason
This hysteria against symbols of faith surfaced as recently as the last quarter or so of the 20th century. A truly tolerant and enlightened approaoch would honor all faiths and disparage none - in theory, anyway. Again, the prohibition against an established church of a particular denomination of a specific religion does not mean we must abandon all reference to faith in the public forum. You'd better get ready to demolish, raze to the ground, most of the historic buildings and monuments in DC, to include the Washington Monument, which can be construed to have religious connotations. Get out the old sandblaster and cleanse the buildings of murals and foundational quotations which might have a religious reference. Just like the Taliban destroying the millenia old statues of Buddha because they found them offensive. How about showing some real maturity and tolerance here.
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:22:53 PM PDT
by
ArmyTeach
(Pray daily for our troops.)
To: needsomereason
Telling you anything is a study in futility. That much is obvious. I said "Your Choice." Somehow that just doesn't sound like "telling you what to do."
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:25:47 PM PDT
by
Adrastus
(If you don't like my attitude, talk to someone else.)
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To: needsomereason
Why post to me? I have no credibility, remember?
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posted on
05/21/2005 11:31:28 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
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