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Schiavos Don't Know Where Terri's Ashes Are (Schindlers Don't Know Where Terri's Ashes Are)
AP ^ | 05-07-05

Posted on 05/07/2005 7:03:09 AM PDT by veronica

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To: veronica
Her mother stopped visiting Terri for several days before Terri's death, it was too upsetting for the mother. That really bothers me, if there was ever a time that Terri needed her mother it was during that time, no matter how hard it was for the mother.

Terri's remains aren't Terri so this fight is meaningless oneupmanship IMO. That said, the Schindlers should motion the court to have Michael found in contempt unless he lets them know where they are, that shouldn't be too hard. After Terri's mother's actions toward the end I've lost respect for the Shindlers, but I hate Michae.

401 posted on 05/08/2005 5:36:11 PM PDT by bushisforpeace
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To: bushisforpeace
When I was in alot of pain from the atypical trigeminal neuralgia stuff, my much older cousin was in the nursing home dying of cancer in the right side of her face/jaw/head.

I couldn't go visit her. I knew I couldn't handle her suffering and I was in soooo much pain myself. They said she cried and cried to die.

When my grandma was dying of congestive heart failure, I'd have to come over and then call the ambulance, eventually taking my turn watching her and taking care of her until we put her in a nursing home.

That was hard because I know what it's like to gasp for breath due to my asthma but I had to do it because we are so few. I could hardly stand to watch the panic in her eyes as she tried to draw air.

It's hard watching someone die, especially when that person is in pain.

I do not condemn Terri's mother because she was having to witness one of the most horrendous deaths possible for her child and there wasn't a thing she could do to even feel like she was alleviating it. She couldn't even moisten her brow or lips with water.

How many family members go to watch one of their loved ones die when their loved one is getting a lethal injection for murder? Some do, some don't.

Please don't condemn Mary Schiavo unless you've walked in her shoes. She doesn't deserve to be condemned.

402 posted on 05/08/2005 6:10:33 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: bushisforpeace

Please don't be hard on Mrs. Schlinder. None of us has been through what she has. She became physically ill when she saw her daughter at the end. I just cannot imagine having to be in the room with a daughter that was being killed and have to watch her suffer as she did. Think I would have attacked. Nobody is going to tell me my daughter will be killed just because........

Just imagine if it was your daughter. A daughter gets married to a bum, they fight and she is in a coma. The husband wants her dead so she cannot incriminate him......so, now, he has free murder. And, we expect a mother to be able to physically stand there and watch her beg for help from anybody?

God will get vengence for the treatment of Terri.


403 posted on 05/08/2005 6:11:02 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Florida Motto: Send me your weak, frail, elderly - and we will give them 'rest'".)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Oooops I meant Mary Schindler.

Sorry about that. sheesssshhhh

404 posted on 05/08/2005 6:13:24 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: ClancyJ
It is because I could only imagine if it were my daughter that I formed an opinion about Mrs. Schlinder. There are times that our own suffering must be secondary to our duties as parents. Terri was aware at the end and all she knew was that her mother wasn't with her when she needed her most. I'm sorry if that's harsh, but Mrs. Schlinder should have found a way to be there, even if it meant that she'd have to take tranquilizers to make herself go.
405 posted on 05/08/2005 6:33:38 PM PDT by bushisforpeace
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
I do not condemn Terri's mother because she was having to witness one of the most horrendous deaths possible for her child and there wasn't a thing she could do to even feel like she was alleviating it. She couldn't even moisten her brow or lips with water.

You got it. Nobody would want to see their child starved and dehydrated to death when they know they can't even bring them a simple drop of water by order of a court in the United States of America.

406 posted on 05/08/2005 6:39:55 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter".-JimRobinson)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

i agree!


407 posted on 05/08/2005 6:42:32 PM PDT by BamaDi
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To: bjs1779
Of coarse no one would want to see their child in such a state, it is because Terri was suffering enormously that she needed the comfort of her mother's presence. Terri's condition was horrific but that fact does not impact Mrs. Schindlers obligation. A responsible mother is with her child at the hour of her death and doesn't leave the child alone with her own murderer for "comfort" during the last days.
408 posted on 05/08/2005 6:52:39 PM PDT by bushisforpeace
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To: stylecouncilor
Terri put herself in the position she was in because of the choices she made for herself.

Your logic evades me. I don't see how Terri's choices made what happened to her acceptable, much less legal ...was it having the misfortune to marry the candidate for National SOB of the decade that did it?
409 posted on 05/08/2005 6:56:21 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: bushisforpeace
A responsible mother is with her child at the hour of her death and doesn't leave the child alone with her own murderer for "comfort" during the last days.

If I remember right, Bobby and Susanne got kicked out of the room by the cops because of Michael right before she died. I suppose you wanted to have her go through that also, knowing what Michael is?

I found this, but I don't consider it a joke.


410 posted on 05/08/2005 7:24:03 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter".-JimRobinson)
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To: bjs1779
Protected pic I guess. Try it in cut and paste in address bar.

http://www.joked.com/content/2005/Mar2005/29/joked-dot-com-terri-schiavo-picture-her-grave.jpg

411 posted on 05/08/2005 7:34:57 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter".-JimRobinson)
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To: bjs1779

That's right they were kicked out, once. Mrs.Schlinder didn't come to her dying child's bedside for days. Her decision was made long before her son was kicked out, therefore it was unrelated. These are just excuses, the simple truth is Mrs.Schlinder's decision was entirely selfish and cruel to her daughter. Michael's inhumanity does not justify Mary's allowing Terri to spend her final days without maternal support. Sometimes doing the right thing means tremendous personal sacrifice, this was one of those times. How can anyone respect Mrs.Schlinder when, after everything she couldn't be there for Terri.


412 posted on 05/08/2005 7:43:31 PM PDT by bushisforpeace
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To: bjs1779

LMAO!


413 posted on 05/08/2005 7:48:59 PM PDT by DemWatch
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To: bushisforpeace

I agree with you - we have to put aside ourselves and do what has to be done. Wish she could have done so. I wonder if she was there some from something that was said on the H&C interview where she mentioned she had to whisper in her ear because the cops were in there with them and would stand close when anyone was near Terri (to be sure no water or comfort given I presume).


414 posted on 05/08/2005 11:17:45 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Florida Motto: Send me your weak, frail, elderly - and we will give them 'rest'".)
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To: sawdust

Stephen, Paul, John the Baptist. None of them HAD to die. Millions of Christians were murdered shortly after Christianity began by the Romans. God did not decree that all Christians must rise up and stop the Romans from murdering them.


415 posted on 05/08/2005 11:24:39 PM PDT by OkieAcres
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To: bushisforpeace
Shut your efn pie hole! You don't have any clue about what it was like to go through what the Schindlers had to go through. If Terri were my daughter, I don't know if I could take it. I'm pretty sure I would have ended up in jail.

You have no heart. Buzz off. Find another thread to post on.

416 posted on 05/08/2005 11:51:40 PM PDT by Pajamajan ("Where there's life there's hope"- Terri Schindler's message to the world. Never Forget.)
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To: MikeinIraq

It is Jeb's fault.


417 posted on 05/09/2005 7:17:08 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Dave S

Excuse me? Jesus Freaks? You mean people who believe Jesus is the Son of God and worship him? People like that? I think you need to apologize to an awful lot of people. But I suspect you won't even consider it. Takes letting go of pride and prejudice.


418 posted on 05/09/2005 7:19:13 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Hildy

"Yea, walking around the group home with a feeding tube in her"

Hildy,
If you removed your cranium from your nether regions you would realize:

1. There was dispute if it was really PVS or if she was in a minimally-conscious state.

2. If it was the latter--that is if she was aware of her surroundings, she could have been rehabliltated

3. One of her guardian ad litems suggested swallowing therapy for her--SO SHE WOULD NOT NEED THE FEEDING TUBE. Got that? OK. That GAL by the way was removed by Michael Schiavo soon after; I guess thatGAL did not have the lust for Terri's demise that Michael did.

Feel better now? Good.


419 posted on 05/09/2005 7:55:22 AM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: OkieAcres

"God did not decree that all Christians must rise up and stop the Romans from murdering them."

So if I see someone being murdered then, I should not call the police? Since--in your opinion--God doesn't care, then why should I? Strange logic.


420 posted on 05/09/2005 7:56:59 AM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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