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Pope hysteria: Oh, no! He's a Catholic!
Union Leader ^ | April 21, 2005 | ed

Posted on 04/21/2005 4:14:45 AM PDT by billorites

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To: clee1

I think one of the reasons people find the Catholic Church so refreshing is because it does not have to hue to the latest and greatest line of modern thought or PC. It represents a different, albeit somewhat anachronistic, view. People who tire of the constant struggles over this or that latest fad can find peace and solace in an organization which strives to be eternal.

And, of course, the forces of "Diversity" are demanding that the Catholic Church be exactly like everything else.


21 posted on 04/21/2005 5:02:56 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: mh8782

You are WAY off base. I suggest a review of history is in order.


22 posted on 04/21/2005 5:24:52 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: mh8782
The unfortunate truth is that religion follows society, not the other way round

The numbers indicate that those religions that "follow society" (as presented by the MSM) are losing members in droves. In any case, some of us think that truth is more important than numbers.

23 posted on 04/21/2005 5:27:43 AM PDT by maryz
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To: SampleMan

Of course it does - Christianity grew because of the political situation it found itself in


24 posted on 04/21/2005 5:28:57 AM PDT by mh8782
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To: gridlock

The funny this is... I'm not Catholic.

There are a multitude of items in Catholic theology that I find very disturbing. Their adherence to absolutes as regards to morality isn't one of those areas, though.

I have been listening to the liberal outrage with some considerable amusement.


25 posted on 04/21/2005 5:29:35 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: maryz

Such as?


26 posted on 04/21/2005 5:31:06 AM PDT by mh8782
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To: mh8782
It's great news for liberals that the pope is so conservative. It'll only lead to dwindling support for Catholicism. The unfortunate truth is that religion follows society, not the other way round

Yeah - that Episcopal Church is really booming.

27 posted on 04/21/2005 5:34:35 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: OldFriend

There's one good thing about the way the Pope is being smeared--it shows how completely evil and abased the slime merchants of the MSM are, thereby hastening the downfall of the MSM. That's why I posted a Tina Brown atricle from the Washington Post, just to let everone here know what the real, evil core of liberalism is. There's no better evidence of what they are than the vitriol that spews from their mouths and word processors.


28 posted on 04/21/2005 5:39:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: mh8782

You mean being fed to lions?


29 posted on 04/21/2005 6:01:10 AM PDT by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: mh8782

And if political persecution explains its growth, then it should be doing gang busters now.


30 posted on 04/21/2005 6:02:49 AM PDT by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: billorites; All

You know, all this criticism of the Pope for his views (not his views, really - the Catholic Church's views!) is kinda like criticizing the Surgeon General for being a "hard-liner" or "inflexible" on, say, smoking or obesity. I'm sure my doctor would like me to follow his advice more. But I'm free to listen to him or not. It would never occur to me to go the extra step, and criticize him, or the AMA, for not being more "inclusive" or "tolerant" of my sedentary lifestyle.

The analogy is not perfect by any means, but I would think the Pope feels as bound by his principles in his field as doctors do in theirs. Just some food for thought.


31 posted on 04/21/2005 6:48:19 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: billorites
Complaining that the Pope should bend to popular will and embrace ideas that directly contradict church doctrine makes as much sense as complaining that the National Organization for Women is not led by Eminem. No institution should be expected to choose a leader that does not believe in its mission and uphold its principles.

Is this too complicated to understand?

32 posted on 04/21/2005 7:18:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: gridlock
It represents a different, albeit somewhat anachronistic, view.

Wait a minute. I'm anachronistic. I think it's been pretty much downhill since the 1200s. If it wasn't for Ockam we wouldn't be in this mess... 8-)

33 posted on 04/21/2005 7:23:25 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: mh8782
Christianity grew because of the political situation it found itself in

Are you referring to the Roman persecution or the adoption of the Catholic religion by Constantine? The Church grew in both cases.

34 posted on 04/21/2005 7:25:52 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
" Is this too complicated to understand?"

Ya think, maybe put it in political terms for liberals 'like Rove replacing Dean' as head of the Democrat party.

35 posted on 04/21/2005 7:27:36 AM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: Aquinasfan

Yes, in the same way America grew in the face of oppression from the British Crown - exactly (and it grew because it was more popular than the romans)


36 posted on 04/21/2005 7:50:42 AM PDT by mh8782
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To: Cheryllynn
Yeah, he is so divisive that he has already split the cardinals into two groups: the over 2/3 who voted for him...and the less than 1/3 who didn't.
37 posted on 04/21/2005 1:25:54 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: billorites
And that's just what "objective" journalists "reported" yesterday.

The coverage of the elevation of Benedict XVI has proved without a doubt, for all time, that the modern media cannot successfully cover any subject with a religious basis. They do not understand it.

They can only relate to a Papal election by treating it as a Bush/Kerry dustup, with a conservatives vs. liberals bent. They cannot conceive that a Pope is elevated to head a church, not manhandle the Massachusetts legislature.

The most amazing thing is that NOBODY in the mainstream media has noticed this or commented on it. It's as though nothing exists outside of their little circumscribed world.

How pathetic, how horrible. What a miserable way to live.

38 posted on 04/21/2005 5:18:26 PM PDT by WarEagle (Karl Rove is so EEEEVIL)
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