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Baptist church 'fake pope' sign attracting attention, criticism (Pope Bound for Hell).
Knoxville News-Sentinel Co. ^ | April 13, 2005 | JEANNINE F. HUNTER

Posted on 04/14/2005 12:00:51 PM PDT by Dean Baker

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To: Conservative til I die
Nevermind those crazy Jews with their matzo bread. Try making a hero out of that!

No idea what "matzo bread" is, but matzah (sing.) or matzot (plural) is for the week of Unleavened Bread (Passover). All other times, the bread has leavening in it, and looks like good italian bread. /snicker.
981 posted on 04/16/2005 2:28:15 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft
yet what they so conveniently forget is how they held sway upon the western world for 1,300 years and brutally oppressed all those who followed the Master by His own footsteps instead of by the mandates of the papal throne. Millions of men, women, and children from Jews to Waldensians, to Huguenots were systematically murdered by the "church" of Rome. No amount of revisionism will erase that memory.

Last I checked, I didn't participate in such activities, not did any other Catholic living today.

Are you also in favor of slave reparations, or do you simply take hypocritical stances when Catholics are involved?

982 posted on 04/16/2005 2:30:56 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: adiaireton8

Your statement "Because the flesh out of which we are made is intrinsic" begs the question "Did Jesus share flesh with Mary, or was Mary a vessel to carry the child from the Holy Spirit?"

Now I'm just getting silly, but "How did Mary become pregnant?" Did the Holy Spirit create a whole viable life within Mary or did the Holy Spirit fertilize one of her eggs.

The prophesy in Isaiah 7:14 states that a virgin will become pregnant and have a son. Either scenerio fills the prophesy. Why put additional restrictions on God?

I don't think we can know. And because we can not know, how can not say that Jesus shared flesh with Mary. Because if the Holy Spirit created a whole viable life, then Mary was extrinsic, just like the sinful world.


983 posted on 04/16/2005 2:31:00 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: safisoft
I study ancient documents. Do you even know what the Didache is?

Try and actuall click on the hyperlink. This book that the evil Galactic...er, Catholic Empire is trying to hide from the common folks is sold at Amazon in a variety of editions with all kinds of commentary. And yes, I have heard of the Didache, since it is liberally quoted in a book from Ignatius Press (a Catholic publisher) called Teachings of the Early Church Fathers
984 posted on 04/16/2005 2:34:33 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: NittanyLion
Are you also in favor of slave reparations, or do you simply take hypocritical stances when Catholics are involved?

First, Rome did not free the "slaves" (i.e., believers who opposed Rome's iron fist) so your analogy does not work. Many broke free from Rome by paying with their lives. Rome fought all the way, and only in recent years even admitted there was such a thing as a "Christian" outside of the Roman "church".

I don't act like slavery never existed. I don't promote teachings that condones things like slavery. I don't act surprised when there is a reaction to the memory of slavery.
985 posted on 04/16/2005 2:37:13 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Conservative til I die
Try and actuall click on the hyperlink

Please go back and click it yourself. Your link does not work.
986 posted on 04/16/2005 2:38:18 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft

"The first record of this word is found in a First Century document that neither Catholics or Protestants want "common people" to know about. It is called the Didache. When one reads how the Didache uses the word eucharist and one also knows how "He blessed and breaked bread" is used it becomes pretty clear. "


Very interesting. Could you please expand upon why the Catholics or Protestants want to keep the Didache hidden? I would also like some clarity on the meaning of the eucharist.


987 posted on 04/16/2005 2:38:18 PM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: safisoft

Ditto


988 posted on 04/16/2005 2:39:18 PM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: Francis McClobber
Very interesting. Could you please expand upon why the Catholics or Protestants want to keep the Didache hidden?

Don't listen to his nonsense. Not like you would get a straight answer anyway. The Didache is widely available in bookstores or at Amazon.com, and Catholic publishers regularly put it out.
989 posted on 04/16/2005 2:42:58 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Francis McClobber; safisoft

Hmmm...Link's not working. Well here, just go to amazon.com and type in "Didache".


990 posted on 04/16/2005 2:45:02 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Francis McClobber
Catholics or Protestants want to keep the Didache hidden

The Didache is the earliest extra-biblical writing by a many years. It is a remarkable document, when compared to Shem Tov's Matthew (Hebrew Matthew) and other Jewish sources. There are a number of translations, some good, some not. It is very easy to read. The reason it remains largely undiscovered is because it provides a very different view of the early congregations of believers. It is big on Scripture (it quotes part of Matthew 6), and very low on men who "authoritatively" turn others to traditions etc. It is highly critical of "professional" religionists - i.e. anyone PAID to teach/preach etc.

And yes, the "eucharist" if read as "thanksgiving" describes what Acts does: believers meeting and breaking bread together - not some pagan ritual.
991 posted on 04/16/2005 2:45:06 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Conservative til I die
Well here, just go to amazon.com and type in "Didache".

I did, years ago. So, when did you get "your copy"?
992 posted on 04/16/2005 2:45:49 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft
I don't act like slavery never existed. I don't promote teachings that condones things like slavery. I don't act surprised when there is a reaction to the memory of slavery.

I don't act like the RC Church never killed people. I don't promote those actions, and I'm not acting surprised that they are remembered.

That said, what does surprise me is that people like yourself use ancient history to damn the current RC Church, when clearly Catholics alive today had nothing to do with those events. It's no different than the race baiters who use slavery to condemn the US in its current form - do you promote their actions?

993 posted on 04/16/2005 2:47:08 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: safisoft
And yes, the "eucharist" if read as "thanksgiving" describes what Acts does: believers meeting and breaking bread together - not some pagan ritual.

Please explain how this book, obviously *WIDELY* available on Amazon and in bookstores worldwide, hasn't brought the Church down yet. I mean, it's not suppressed, like you say it is. It's affordable to the common man. So why hasn't this book exposed what the Catholic Church doesn't want exposed? It's like all that Gnostic Gospel nonsense. Apparently the Church is trying to hide from them, yet you can pick it up at the bookstore for $10.95.

A big whatever and a yawn from me.
994 posted on 04/16/2005 2:48:46 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: safisoft
I did, years ago.

But wait! The Catholic Empire has long suppressed this book to keep the common man from finding out its secrets, like you said, yes? So how could you get a copy? Careful that the Pope doesn't find out and have you burnt at the stake.
995 posted on 04/16/2005 2:50:32 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: NittanyLion
I don't act like the RC Church never killed people.

Really? Then are you ready to repudiate the men who did? Their names have popped up repeatedly in this thread as authoritative with regard to the things of G-d. The fact is, when some of your scholars and leaders clearly were murders then it stands to reason that they cannot be used as authoritative. That, my friend is why many simply go back and say, sola scriptura - because in the end, ALL of us have people in our spirtual ancestry that we would not want to follow. In other words, when picking a traditions, follow the ones that adhere to Scripture, instead of following the men that came up with them.
996 posted on 04/16/2005 2:52:27 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Conservative til I die
Careful that the Pope doesn't find out and have you burnt at the stake.

Coming from a Catholic, that isn't even remotely funny. Tell me, do you even know how many your "church" murdered? I thank HaShem that I did not live in such dark days as when reading Scripture was a crime and Bibles were burned by the Roman "church".
997 posted on 04/16/2005 2:57:35 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft
In other words, when picking a traditions, follow the ones that adhere to Scripture, instead of following the men that came up with them.

If you lack the ability to understand that Catholics do follow Scripture, that's not my problem.

In the meantime, I'd suggest to you that dredging up ancient history to support a (nonexistent) point is not going to get you very far.

998 posted on 04/16/2005 2:58:42 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Conservative til I die
Please explain how this book, obviously *WIDELY* available on Amazon and in bookstores worldwide, hasn't brought the Church down yet.

That's easy. Because you haven't read it yet.

Seriously, no conspiracy. Rome knows full well that if their people won't use the Bible to refute errant tradition, some extra-biblical source like the Didache is of no real threat. My focus was not a conspiracy, but simply a lesson in what is known of and what is not. One would think that something as important as the earliest extra-biblical document, it would be better recognized by "church" leaders. The history of the Didache, although not conspiratory, is interesting. It is quoted from in quite a few early documents - but no copy existed until it was accidentally found in 1870 - but not in the Vatican library. Afterward, a number of copies in the Vatican library were discovered, but I do not say that it was a conspiracy - just ironic.
999 posted on 04/16/2005 3:04:37 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Conservative til I die

Where is this prophecy about African Popes in the Bible?
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I quoted you prophecy about endtimes deception. Isn't it odd, I have known for a year where your next pope will come out of and you know nothing. It's YOUR church, why don't YOU know it. Your so in TOUCH with God.

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You're the worst kind of anti-Catholic bigot, the foaming at the mouth types who broadcast their rants over the short-wave radios out in the sticks.
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You wish, you KNOW I speak the truth, and you KNOW its God given, but like the Pharisees, you gnash your teeth in religious anger because you don't want the harlot to lose her grip on people. YOU love the control,power and deception. Your time is short.


1,000 posted on 04/16/2005 3:07:10 PM PDT by BriarBey
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