Posted on 04/13/2005 6:20:23 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
Great post PH. Thanks for the ping.
mc6809e>> What?!?
It's hardly a ridiculous theory.
Here's an example of a ridiculous theory: the big sky-daddy is testing our faith by planting this genetic evidence.
This is a great example of why it is stupid for believers to interpret Genesis litterally. Evolution is supported by hard facts that can be examined and tested, while faith, by it's very definition, cannot.
When creationists attack evolution, they open themselves up to ridicule and derision. And when young believers enter college and are challeneged with the evidence of evolution that contradicts what they've been taught, some of them will abandon their faith entirely. Any believer who abandons their faith over this silly issue is a tragedy.
The only intellegent solution is for believers to accept that God is powerful enough to have created Evolution, and some, but not all, believers have misinterpreted Genesis to say otherwise.
Problem solved.
I must say, at least, I admire you for your self-admission. The fact that you blatantly admit it, reinforces its validity.
I don't think that faith in the Bible is any detriment to conservatisim.
But the rigid interpretation of Genesis that some, but not all, Christians hold that we call "creationism" certianly is a cancer on conservatisim. It damages our credibility, and distracts us (with fights over science classroom content) from working on political goals that are attainable, like proper Supreme Court judges and SS reform.
"Can not" <> "Do not"
Dunno is infinitely better than your answer to the question appended to dunno.
So then, if I get the drift of this correctly...
The Third human on earth DID NOT come from the first two...
Right.?.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
It doesn't matter if they disagree with me or not, they disagree with the Bible.
Wow. Not only do you claim to be the final judge of who is and isn't Jewish or Christian, you also claim to be the final arbiter of what the Bible says.
You do know that pride is a sin, right?
...until you get to Adam: made from dust.
Because we share an ancestor with today's apes, but we didn't evolve from them.
You gain an understanding of a certain part of the natural world.
The only thing this "science" does is confuse people about their faith.
You must have a pretty weak faith if you're afraid of a simple scientific theory.
Pretty idiotic to believe in nonsense, whose sole purpose is to undermine the church in the first place.
Hate to rain on your feelings of persecution, but the theory of evolution really has nothing to do with your religion.
Thank you both. The things I was taught wrong in school...
Genesis simply left out the unimportant details. The process God used to create man isn't in the Bible because it would have been lost on primitive bronze-agers. I imagine God knew that we would eventually be able to fill in the details.
The Bible doesn't deal with very much science. It's a moral guide, not a science textbook.
This question is so ignorant that it makes me feel sorry for you.
If you really believe that the theory of evolution calls for humans giving birth to chimps occasionally, there's no point in even discussing this with you.
amazing complexity.
Nature is one fast typing monkey!
So God intentionally created evidence pointing to evolution as an attempt to fool humans?
Doesn't sound like the Christian God I'm familiar with. More like Loki, the Norse god of mischief.
It wasn't a quote..
From another post I made.
The creation of the world and the creation of man are connected repeatedly throughout scripture.
Isa 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, [even] my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else.
Isa 40:21-22
Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world [men] have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, [what] he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Again, more passages speaking about Adam being created:
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 5:1 This [is] the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Deu 4:32 For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth,
And the myth called Adam lived a specific number of years, then the myth died.
Gen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
It all ties together scripturally.
And no good study of beginnings can go without a passage written by the finger of God on the tablets of stone, which tends to override any scholars desire to reattribute it to the eating of a bad pickle.
Exd 20:8-11
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:
11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
A direct correlation.
I was just noting the potential conflict between a para 2 and para 3 in your green warbler example. The two varieties are the same species.
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