Transcript of Glenn Beck Interview with Ken Mullinax (Re: Starving Mae)

aclearvoice.org ^ | 4-9-05 | Transcript of Interview

[Fred Nerks]

Your democrat neighbours admit they are not imortal? No, seriously, this issue of hospice death culture touches us all, it's way beyong polictics IMO.

[potlatch]

Hi smartA, better not to get into all the turmoil again, huh?

[EmilyGeiger]

I hope she is at UAB because it is a wonderful hospital. The whole situation is terrible but why were they withdrawing eye drops from her? How horrible. The people in hospices act as if it is bothersome to have to care for anyone. I know not all are this way but lately everything you hear about them makes you believe they would not want to have to take care of anyone.

[Smartass]

I'll hold your coat, and sponge you off!

[potlatch]

LOL, no need, I was already off and looking at javascript sites!!

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.hopsicepatients.org/terri-schiavo-10-12-02-press-rel.html (snip)

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

CONTACT:
Ron Panzer, President
Hospice Patients Alliance, Inc.
http://www.hospicepatients.org

(616) 866-9127

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Hospice Patients Alliance Blasts Hospice Agencies
That Terrorize the Chronically Disabled



by Ron Panzer, President HPA
GRAND RAPIDS, MI - October 15, 2002 - Terri Schiavo currently is being held in a Pinellas County Florida hospice that is not licensed to provide care for the chronically ill. Terri Schiavo is a non-terminal disabled patient with brain damage. Terri's own treating physician, Dr. Vincent Gambone, testified before the court,saying "her condition is one that there is no recovery. The damage that is done to the brain is not repairable."1 However, the chronically disabled are by definition not going to recover completely. These are not terminal patients, and the disabled can live many years so long as they are not intentionally killed.

Terrorizing the Disabled in America
The practice of enrolling chronically disabled patients into hospice endangers all disabled citizens of the United States and directly violates their Constitutional rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The disabled are not so much afraid of getting anthrax or being shot; they are afraid that society will toss them away like a used tissue and kill them. The disabled are terrorized by those holier-than-thou self-proclaimed bioethicists who have no morality and no sense of humanity and proclaim, like Adolf Hitler, that the disabled are "better off dead."

Adolf Hitler summarily executed the mentally ill and developmentally disabled "for the greater good of society." The utilitarian philosophy which promotes the killing of patients in order to save health care resources for others has plunged the US health care system to a depth which calls for shame and disgust. If hospice is to become a killing center for the disabled, then hospice agencies that do so are no different from the gas chambers in Nazi Germany.

Adolf Hitler had his program of euthanasia going on throughout World War II. He relished the opportunity that wartime gave him to carry out his agenda to kill the disabled:


Wartime, Adolf Hitler suggested, "was the best time for the elimination of the incurably ill." Many Germans did not want to be reminded of individuals who did not measure up to their concept of a "master race." The physically and mentally handicapped were viewed as "useless" to society, a threat to Aryan genetic purity, and, ultimately, unworthy of life. At the beginning of World War II, individuals who were mentally retarded, physically handicapped, or mentally ill were targeted for murder in what the Nazis called the "T-4," or "euthanasia," program.

The "euthanasia" program required the cooperation of many German doctors, who reviewed the medical files of patients in institutions to determine which handicapped or mentally ill individuals should be killed. The doctors also supervised the actual killings. 2

Terri Schiavo would have been summarily executed by Hitler's agents of death. Anyone who harms her, by removing her feedings and causing her to become dehydated, is killing her just as if they shot her with a bullet, just as if they were part of Adolf Hitler's Nazi death squads.

Hospice that enrolls Non-Terminal Patients Commits Fraud
The United States Office of Inspector General has issued its warning to the public about questionable hospice agency practices and stated that some hospices have been found to engage in, "practices which ... have inappropriately maximized their Medicare reimbursements at beneficiary expense. These practices include: Making incorrect determinations of a person’s life expectancy for purposes of meeting hospice eligibility criteria."3 A hospice that bills Medicare, Medicaid or a private insurer for a non-terminal patient is violating the contracts which allow hospices to provide services for the terminally ill.

Hospices are not licensed to care for the chronically ill. In order for a patient to be admitted to hospice, the physician must "certify" that the patient is likely to die within six months due to a terminal illness. Terri Schiavo has no terminal illness; the only cause of death in her case would be her intentional murder by those intent on ending her life.

Original Hospice Mission Violated
The original hospice mission is to care for, support and manage the symptoms of the terminally ill until a death occurs in its own natural timing. Every hospice nurse and physician knows that hospice is supposed to neither hasten death nor seek to cure the terminal illness. Hastening the death of a patient goes against everything hospice stands for.

Although Terri Schiavo's case will be decided in a Pinellas County courthouse, any hospice that accepts a chronically ill patient has violated not only the spirit of hospice and the mission of hospice, but the federal regulations governing hospice4

Hospice Organization Remains Silent on Euthanasia Case
It is mind-boggling that the national organizations promoting hospice in this country have remained silent about Terri Schiavo's case, the stream of intentional killings in hospices across our nation and the killings going on in Oregon. Anyone who is informed about the killings in Oregon know that the state of Oregon is NOT reporting the full truth about the cases and that there are cases which are not even recorded by the state.

Hospice lobbying groups like the National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization and the state hospice associations need to act immediately to preserve the hospice mission before hospice practice descends into the gutter and hospice becomes synonymous with "house-of-murder." It is common knowledge among the public that some hospices routinely kill their patients with overdosages of morphine and sedatives before the patient dies a natural death from the terminal illness.

These national groups need to take a stand for morality, ethics and compassion. They loudly proclaim that hospice is "compassion and caring for the dying," but killing the disabled is the furthest thing from "compassionate" or "caring." They do nothing when non-terminal patients are threatened by those who wish to kill them in a hospice. Hospice staff throughout the nation eagerly learn how to terminally sedate patients and then end patient's lives (through dehydration and circulatory collapse) when they have no medical need for sedation.5 Many physicians are more than willing to end the lives of their patients. (See 6, and 7. And approximately 50 per cent of physicians in our nation approve of physician-assisted suicide8!)

[PhilDragoo]

A very complete overview of undertakers posing as physicians.

[Smartass]

Some Java script work for me and a lot doesn't! I was working on some html scripts last night and today. It seems when I add Java, LOL...I get Tsunamied.

[Smartass]

Exactly! Hard to imagine this goes on hourly, daily, and weekly.

[Wneighbor]

Yes, the death culture is reaching for us all and not by the means that God has planned for us.

The fact that there is no dissenting opinion among more than a half dozen households causes me to wonder if it's because the democrat households are just nominally liberal (being deep in red state territory.) Something I find sorta plausible, they all at least profess to be Christian, though some don't have a clue what that involves as I know it.

But, also, this is a "middle class" working neighborhood. Some of us are financially secure, others struggle from paycheck to paycheck. If the question were brought out in the open I think we'd all have to say we'd be on a hospice death list if physical circumstances took a turn for the worse. So, maybe your immortality question has some meat in it.

All of us except one couple have been in situations where we have had to care for dying relatives also. Because we've been there we fail to grasp the motives (we agree on money being the motive) of the families who promote death.

On the west side of me is an older couple. The man has a serious heart problem. I think they are actually "living" in a similar situation now to that Mae is in. I'm thinkin' that man's wife or either of his kids would kill somebody that tried to dehydrate and starve Chuck. (They are conservatives not liberals anyway)

See, I wasn't kidding, this afternoon's conversation and lack of disagreement from *anyone* along my alleyway have really made me think. I hope this bodes as something that could turn to momentum for LIFE. I just can't give up hope. This at least seemed positive though I can only speculate as to the root of our agreement.

[potlatch]

I get Tsunamied.

LOLOL, maybe that's why you couldn't 'see' my webpages, I have lots of javascript and Dynamic HTML which doesn't show up on some browsers!!

[Wneighbor]

I don't know personally about UAB but Kenneth's mother, Mae's sister has been successfully treated non-surgically for the same condition Mae has for some years now. Kenneth said that his mom's doctor immediatly said he would also treat Mae. Sounds like it's a reliable place at least when they've kept the sister alive for 5? (I think) years when the Georgia hospice gave Mae no hope.

[knuthom]

Greedy Beth Gaddy want duh money honey

I heard Rush Limbaugh say something to the effect that his medical/legal papers say that no one who benefits by his death gets to make the decision to withdraw life support.

[Smartass]

Your web page didn't show on my computer!   I have MS-XP, IE version 6, a gig of ram, all the security junko turned on, and it's still a no-go. Gotta chat with Bill Gates next time I see him.

[PhilDragoo]

And that's an excellent way to keep the feeding tube in him and the daggers out of him.

[potlatch]

Yes, that puzzles me too. I'm going to have to send all my page urls to some of my friends and ask them what they get. I know I overload them with .gifs!!

[Former Dodger]

Thanks for the ping, Fred....Thanks for the post schmelvin,

This is great news, I've seen some posts about this case and I am glad to hear that morals and common sense prevailed...then again, it wasn't in Florida.

God bless and keep Mae...

[Smartass]

Send me some code and I'll give you some dumb comments?

[schmelvin]

My mom is a rabid Democrat. I was almost afraid to ask her what she thought about Terri Schiavo's death, but I asked anyway.

It turns out my mom was very upset about what they did to Terri, and she was horrified when I told her about what Mae went through.

I would really like to hear Mae tell her side of the story someday. I would be very interested to hear what she has to say about the way she was treated.

[maica]

The good news is that after this interview Mae was saved. She was removed from that hospice and transported to a hospital where she is now getting excellent care.

A must read interview!