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Importance of alcohol production in the ancient world, study
Medical News Today ^ | 07 Apr 2005

Posted on 04/09/2005 12:01:37 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: SkyPilot
is this were the term "a wake" comes from?

Yep. Also I've read that after they discovered that they had been burying people alive that they would tie a string on the dead ones wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the cemetery all night to listen for the bell. Consequently, on the "graveyard shift" someone would hear a bell and know that a "dead" person was "saved by the bell."

21 posted on 04/10/2005 6:22:05 PM PDT by lizma
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To: SkyPilot
by the same token, royalty drank their water/wine/mead whatever from silver goblets, where silver has natural anti-septic properties, if the colloidal silver folks are to be believed...
22 posted on 04/10/2005 6:45:28 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: ValerieUSA

Heh... "underground volcano" is like "overhead clouds". ;')


23 posted on 04/10/2005 7:26:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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King Midas' Modern Mourners
Science News | Nov. 4, 2000; Vol. 158, No. 19 , p. 296 | Jessica Gorman
Posted on 11/28/2004 6:23:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1290040/posts


24 posted on 04/10/2005 7:31:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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related:
Censing The God: Psychoactive Substances In Ancient Egypt
by Michael Carmichael
summarized by Andrew Collins
Michael ran through a series of slides, almost exclusively from Egypt's controversial Amarna period. This began with the pharaoh Akhenaten around 1378 BC and included the 12-year reign of the boy king Tutankhamun. Tiles, friezes and jewellery from this era frequently portrayed not just the psychoactive mandrake plant, but also the blue water lily. Drugs such as mandrake would have been burnt on incense holders and the fumes absorbed through the nasal passage... Michael showed slides of beautiful alabaster vases found in the tomb of Tutankhamun fashioned to resemble both the stem and flower of the blue water lily. These, Michael suggested, were used by the king to consume extracts of the plant. Friezes showed the pharaoh surrounded by the blue water lily and also the mandrake plant. This has led Michael to conclude that the image of the pharaoh as a militaristic leader, smiting his enemies, diverts us from the real fact that Egyptian kings considered the use of drugs, such as the blue water lily and the mandrake, important in communication with the gods... the consumption of drugs in Egyptian society extended far beyond the Amarna period and was important to the culture throughout its 3,000-year history. Furthermore, that it might well have had shamanistic roots which predated dynastic history, a theory I put forward in my book GODS OF EDEN He also touched upon the subject of nicotine and cocaine being found in Egyptian mummies during the 1990s by German toxicologist Svetlana Balabanova. Although he admits that the presence of cocaine, the active ingredient of the coca plant, cannot suitably be explained, there are a number of plants which were known to the Egyptians that contain tiny amounts of nicotine.


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25 posted on 04/10/2005 7:47:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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To: nickcarraway

I haven't read the article, but I'll participate in any study they need on the importance of alcohol!


26 posted on 04/10/2005 8:31:28 PM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: nickcarraway

btt


27 posted on 04/10/2005 9:31:20 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: nickcarraway

The king and court in the Middle Ages had to move around from host or castle to host in order to feed the group. Couldn't stay in just one place.

I think what the article is saying is that a feast presupposes an infrastructure of beverage makers, potters, hunters etc. As the beverage took some time to make, that meant some division of labor to support those making beer.


28 posted on 04/11/2005 2:26:26 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: lizma
Consequently, on the "graveyard shift" someone would hear a bell and know that a "dead" person was "saved by the bell."

Thanks, very interesting. I wonder if the term "dead ringer" is derived from what you described above.

29 posted on 04/11/2005 2:53:37 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Supposedly yes, but I couldn't find how a term that means "similar image" arose from a description of a person being buried alive, so I left it out.

Any ideas?

30 posted on 04/11/2005 4:49:08 AM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma
Dead Ringers

After Quasimodo's death, the bishop of the cathedral of Notre Dame sent word through the streets of Paris that a new bell ringer was needed.

The bishop decided that he would conduct the interviews personally and went up into the belfry to begin the screening process. After observing several applicants demonstrate their skills, he decided to call it a day when a lone, armless man approached him and announced that he was there to apply for the bell ringers job.

The bishop was incredulous.

"You have no arms!"

"No matter," said the man, "Observe!"

He then began striking the bells with his face, producing a beautiful melody on the carillon.

The bishop listened in astonishment, convinced that he had finally found a suitable replacement for Quasimodo.

Suddenly, rushing forward to strike a bell, the armless man tripped, and plunged headlong out of the belfry window to his death in the street below.

The stunned bishop rushed to his side. When he reached the street, a crowd had gathered around the fallen figure, drawn by the beautiful music they had heard only moments before. As they silently parted to let the bishop through, one of them asked,

"Bishop, who was this man?"

"I don't know his name," the bishop replied sadly,

"but his face rings a bell." .

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..........but wait, there's more... .

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The following day, despite the sadness that weighed heavily on his heart due to the unfortunate death of the armless campanologist (now there's a trivia question), the bishop continued his interviews for the bellringer of Notre Dame.

The first man to approach him said, "Your excellency, I am the brother of the poor, armless wretch that fell to his death from this very belfry yesterday. I pray that you honor his life by allowing me to replace him in this duty."

The bishop agreed to give the man an audition, and as the armless man's brother stooped to pick up a mallet to strike the first bell, he groaned, clutched at his chest and died on the spot. Two monks, hearing the bishop's cries of grief at this second tragedy, rushed up the stairs to his side.

"What has happened?", the first breathlessly asked, "Who is this man?"

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[Wait for it...]

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"I don't know his name," sighed the distraught bishop,

"but he's a dead ringer for his brother."

31 posted on 04/11/2005 6:06:16 AM PDT by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Max in Utah

That was absolutely painful.

I am sending it to everyone I know.


32 posted on 04/11/2005 6:26:54 AM PDT by Steelerfan
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King Tut Liked Red Wine
sciencedaily.com | 2005-04-03
Posted on 04/03/2005 8:32:09 AM PDT by quantim
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376544/posts


33 posted on 04/11/2005 7:27:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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