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U.S. Gay Catholics Say 'No Sex' Doctrine Tough to Follow
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| April 7, 2005
| Adam Tanner
Posted on 04/07/2005 6:20:40 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Thank you - I knew female homosexuality was addressed, but couldn't remember where. I thought it was also alluded to in the OT, but I'll have to research.
God Bless
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:49:43 AM PDT
by
trebb
("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
To: Petronski
NO, that would be wrong as well. the rule to be a Catholic priest is you have to be selebet. NO SEX of any kind.
That rule is being broken in a few instances, there are a couple married Catholic priests in the USA, One in Ireland, and now, one in Canada. There may be a few others in Europe as well.
To: BobCNY
Bob,
Well put. Amazing how many churchgoers are not willing to submit their lifestyle to the teachings of the church. Clintonian departmentalization at its best. They submit their religious gene but not their sex gene.
"I take my spirit to church every Sunday but I will not allow my religion to interfere with my politics." or, "The church has no business interfering with my work as Senator." - guess who
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:50:10 AM PDT
by
Louis Foxwell
(They are lost in sin.)
To: Clint N. Suhks
Peter Novak has practiced Catholicism his whole life . . .Ummm, no he hasn't.
Figures Reuters would get the very first words of the article absolutely wrong.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:51:01 AM PDT
by
Bush2004
To: Clint N. Suhks
Those zany U.S. Catholics!
Gotta love those headline writers. What about the German, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, Brazilian, Portugese, Cuban, South African, Russian, Senegalese, and other (fill in the national blank) Catholics? They don't have a problem with it? Or is this another shot at creating a schism via the dinosaur press? It's like some are crying out in pain - just begging to please be finished with restraint and any semblance of Bible thought or teachings - at least in the US.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:51:06 AM PDT
by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
To: thoughtomator
The Bible doesn't address female homosexuality.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:52:30 AM PDT
by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
To: Clint N. Suhks
Number of Popes who were against gay marriage 628
Number of Popes who supported gay marriage 0.
Yep, it's all Pope John Paul's fault for driving the gays from the Church.....
To: Rightwing Conspiratr1; anniegetyourgun
Ah, you guys are using the newfangled version. I never took to that one.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:53:54 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
To: Clint N. Suhks
-"The church came out very much opposed to gay marriage and I would say that was part of it," he said, explaining why he stopped going to Mass regularly more than a year ago. "It has challenged my ability to feel comfortable in the church."-
It's not up to the church to make you feel comfortable; it's up to you to live up to your religion. Cripes!
To: Nathan Zachary
The rule about promising or vowing celibacy is irrelevant, the guy left the seminary. My statement is accurate.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:55:16 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
To: AD from SpringBay
The Bible doesn't address female homosexuality.
It doesn't address embryonic stem-cell research, euthanasia, or even the nature of the Trinity for that matter. Is that problematic?
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:55:38 AM PDT
by
mike182d
("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
To: jwalburg
Exactly!
Simply insert your favorite paraphilic disorder and it all works the same.
There's no difference.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:56:42 AM PDT
by
Clint N. Suhks
(WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
To: Let's Roll
I believe the Catholic Church does not condemn being gay as sinful -- it is acting upon one's homosexual tendencies by engaging in sexual relations that is considered sinful.
I've come across a few men in my time that I thought had to be gay, but they never had partners. They were fine in my eyes as well as in good standing with their churches.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:57:07 AM PDT
by
Bush2004
To: Clint N. Suhks
If Catholics with same-sex attraction want to take their faith seriously, they need to join
Courage.
54
posted on
04/07/2005 6:57:43 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
To: mike182d
That was the implication (I was trying to be subtle). To be extreme, the Bible doesn't address heroin or crystal meth either. It's problematic when folks have a thoughtless approach to understanding the book of faith.
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posted on
04/07/2005 6:58:48 AM PDT
by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
Comment #56 Removed by Moderator
To: Pondman88
but if one were predisposed to being gay, and you had this career/vocation which allows you not to marry and be in concert with other men........
A lot of these men are trying to "fix" themselves by entering the priesthood. It's common in seminaries of all denominations.
As far as other postings about Christianity being incompatible with homosexuality, I'd have to say that's not true. It's incompatible with unrepentant homosexuality. We are all sinners, even though some sins are not as public or as ensnaring as sexual sins.
Thankfully, God takes us right where we are. He doesn't expect us to be all cleaned up. As fallen, sinful human beings, we are incapable of "cleaning ourselves up." Sure, we can make ourselves "behave" externally, but our hearts can remain deeply disobedient to God. The only solution is to repent of our sin, submit ourselves to God's authority and will, and ask Him to work in and through us.
As a side note, I have a good friend who was a homosexual, became a Christian, and even got married. He's an awesome man of God, but he still has to make an effort to avoid temptation, and rely on God's grace to sustain him.
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posted on
04/07/2005 7:00:24 AM PDT
by
halieus
(God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there.)
To: stan_sipple
Paul seems to be saying that their punishment for moral depravity is their queer lifestyle Don't rely on the quote alone, you ought to expect and look for some contextual exegesis. Romans 1:26-27 is in the middle of a passage discussing the activities of those who have fallen away from God. Paul talks explicitly about homosexuality as an example of those who might know God, but instead have rejected God and given themselves over to their own lusts. It's not a punishment, but an inevitable result of "I God".
To: dfwgator
Not being catholic will not change God's Law.
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posted on
04/07/2005 7:01:50 AM PDT
by
usslsm51
To: trebb
Female homosexuality is, in Deuteronomy.
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