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GOP Crack-Up? Pardon My Guffaw (Mark Steyn: Republicans "Did the Right Thing" re: Schiavo)
Chicago Sun-Times ^
| 4/03/05
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 04/03/2005 4:15:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: mlc9852
And I guess partial birth abortion is just a "choice" also? When you have to resort to putting words in other people's mouths while arguing, you have no argument.
To: Saundra Duffy
As detestable as I find the outcome of recent events, especially the way the Florida GOP handled it, I'm going to wait and watch for the next year to see if the party takes any promising stands for once. Mind you, I'm not really all that hopeful.
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posted on
04/03/2005 1:58:44 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
To: Saundra Duffy
I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!! Just a wild guess, but I think they'll be better off without you.
To: k2blader
But often enough you can take what a person has typed, peel away most of the deceptive outer layers, and understand the basic meaning of what he has said.I'm not sure exactly what you are saying, but I believe you ....... I guess.
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:01:26 PM PDT
by
beyond the sea
(Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
To: beyond the sea
I'm trying to say, some people employ euphemisms rather than state in a straight manner what they really believe.
For example, they may say, "People should be allowed to die with dignity," rather than, "I support Dr. Kevorkian."
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:03:48 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
To: Saundra Duffy
I think whoever wrote this article doesn't have a lick of common sense. I dont know about common sense but he seems to have little political sense, killing Terri Schiavo meant alienating Christian voters within the Republican Party and like you they will probably take similar actions. Not saving Terri Schiavo would not have provoked the same reaction from the common sense Republicans who advocated everyone stay within the framework of the law (I wonder if they will feel the same way about the law if the world court brings George W Bush to trail for his illegal war against the Iraqi people, but I digress..).
The arguments that you will hear will be that you are handing a victory to the other side, Clinton will get the White House and so on. Scare tactics. And as I'm writing this they have probably already been posted.
What the writer fails to recognize is that the slim majority is kept there by people who hold Gods law first and Americas second and their beliefs mean they will not, and cannot compromise, even if it means letting a Democrat take the White House again. But then again perhaps another bout of Democrat in the White House may bring the CSRs (Common Sense Republicans) to their senses. What the writer is missing is letting Terri die was not a very cleaver thing to do from a political point of view and asking Christian Republicans to put it behind them and move on.org is even more foolish. Expecting Democrats who are fed up with the DNC at the moment to fill the gap is a bit of a long shot.
A week in politics is a long time so things may change but stating quite categorically that Terri Schiavos death will not have a negative effect on the polls does show a lack of understanding and a total disregard for those who were behind the Republican revolution until late last week.
To: k2blader
Aha. I understand now. Thanks. ;-)
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:06:08 PM PDT
by
beyond the sea
(Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
To: beyond the sea
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:08:50 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
To: denydenydeny
I asked a question. If you prefer not to answer, why don't you say you prefer not to answer. See, I see Terri's case as respecting life. I'm not sure how you see it.
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:09:05 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: Tribune7
At this point the only thing that will get many of us back is real hard action. A judge sitting in prison for 6 months for Contempt of Congress might be a good start. A 50% reduction in staffing and budgeting at all Federal Court Districts would be another. Passing another Law that will be ignored will convince only the foolish. It is way past the hearings stage. That will be just more smoke and mirrors.
To: SkyPilot
I have heard Mark Steyn mentioned in earlier postings but never read anything by him.
I have posted several times that the Terri Shivo case would come back to bite the liberals in their lame brained bigoted Arse.
Here is something I posted earlier but it is relevant to your cartoon posting.
"Many on the left say that us right wing religious fervent followers of the bible's word are just being hysterical. Were looked upon as being unintelligent ignorant rubes without the multicultural links to understanding the real world.
The America we grew up in is disintegrating before our aging eyes. The rush to be all things to all people is neutering our ability to stand for anything.
As an example, a close relative of mine is an avowed homosexual. Over the last few years he has morphed into a completely different person. He has turned his back on both the political and spiritual of his upbringing.
To justify his lifestyle with his partner he no longer believes that the bible is relevant in today's world. He says to all who will listen that anyone who believes every word of the bible isn't smart enough to think for themselves.
He took a drink of the aphrodisiac Koolaide of the Dimocratic extreme left and finds himself living in the world of right and wrong as adjudged by the latest opinion poll. Like many Dimorats he is hooked on defeating traditional values even if it means bringing America to it's knees before the world.
He views Terri Shivos death as a win for his kind of values.
Following the road map of the real world is a dangerous course. It will lead to an eternity in a very HOT place not found on your usual vacation map."
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:11:54 PM PDT
by
OKIEDOC
(LL THE)
To: Mark in the Old South
At this point the only thing that will get many of us back is real hard action. A judge sitting in prison for 6 months for Contempt of Congress might be a good start. A 50% reduction in staffing and budgeting at all Federal Court Districts would be another. Think it'll happen?
Most of the GOP right now seems to be congealing back into a "let's get on with what's important now" mode.
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:12:14 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
To: denydenydeny
Re: "Just a wild guess, but I think they'll be better off without you."
Yeah you are right.........
Perhaps they might be better off without me as well.
Yeah that is a good idea, the more I think of it. They don't need me, they don't want me.
Gee thanks, that is big load off my mind, Thanks I owe you one.
To: k2blader
You are right, they never finished the baseball stuff. I mean it is time to get back to the really important stuff.
To: beyond the sea
Whoa - serious blushes here. Looks like I'm gonna have to tell some more booger jokes to make up for it...
;-)
To: GeekDejure
Re: "Lucifer's Left"
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:25:16 PM PDT
by
TimeLord
(A whale fetus is a whale; a human fetus is a blob.)
To: Billthedrill
You had a moment!!! Really, your words were perfect.
Now...... for the booger jokes!
;-)
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:30:43 PM PDT
by
beyond the sea
(Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
To: Saundra Duffy
Dear Saundra
I am sorry to hear that your cutting up cards.
I hope that you did this in privacy.
I just recently found an old DNC Winter Season Card (you might say it was an attempt at a multicultural Christmas Card) wishing me a joyous season. It was with great pleasure that this card was also cut up. Most of all I really enjoyed flushing this multicultralist drivel down the sewer. Down to the level, on which most Dimorat politicians these days seem to reside.
Trust in God that Terri Shivos death will not be in vain. Big changes are coming and all those lefties laughing now will be singing a different tune in a few more months. They may have just won a battle over an innocent woman's life and in the end lost the war. OKIEDOC
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:33:01 PM PDT
by
OKIEDOC
(LL THE)
To: Earthdweller
They claim that some of those hiding Freepers are anti-pulling the feeding tube, but I haven't seen them. I checked out their thread, and it was a bunch of people talking about "religious nutjobs."
I'm not comfortable with either those who smirk about the end of Jeb's political career for doing "nothing" to help Terri, nor those who feel it was "time to let her go" or "none of anyone else's business."
BTW, I'm PRO-LIFE and I'm NOT a Christian.
My tagline says how I feel.
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posted on
04/03/2005 2:38:43 PM PDT
by
stands2reason
(When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
To: Pokey78
The Republicans did the right thing here, and they won't be punished for it by the electors. As with abortion, this will be an issue where the public moves slowly but steadily toward the conservative position: Terri Schiavo's court-ordered death will not be without meaning. Absolutely. Zogby's poll is an indication that when given factual questions as in his poll: "If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," 79 percent said the patient should not have food and water taken away while just 9 percent said yes.
In other words, the Republicans did the right thing, and as more people find out the facts in this case without the death-cultists and media manipulation, the GOP will be riding high.
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