Schindler Coroner Nixed from Terri Autopsy

NewsMax ^ | 4/1/05 | Carl Limbacher

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Thanks, this is certainly disturbing. To me your post is like the "Buckhead 47" of the Schiavo affair.

[Fred Nerks]

Sorry it took so long...hope it all makes sense, and I hope it's not outdated info...

http://www.theempirejournal.com/New_Folder/judge_greer_schiavo.htm

[Diogenesis]

Thank you, Fred.

Now check this out.

BREAKING: FReepers: Did Michael Shiavo attend ANY of Jon R. Thogmartin's courses on "Strangulation and Other Compressions"?

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Factoid of the hour - Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D taught a course on "Strangulation and Other Compressions"

Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D. District Chief Medical Examiner, Pinellas County, FL

* According to the Medical Examiner’s Office, “The mission of the Medical Examiner’s
office is to fulfill the needs outlined in F.S. 406, to be of service to families of the deceased,
and local government agencies. In short, our mission is to determine the cause
and manner of death under certain circumstances.
This mission requires the utmost objectivity irrespective of personal beliefs or emotional attachment to the circumstances of any particular case.”
* Started the job in 2000.
* “His major fields of interest are wound ballistics, firearms, infant deaths,
child abuse, asphyxia, and forensic toxicology. ”

* “Thogmartin has also done his share of teaching. In Texas, beginning in 1984,
he was a teaching assistant at Southern Methodist in the Department of Chemistry,
and at the University of Health Science Center at San Antonio in the Departments of
Cellular and Structural Biology and Pathology. More recently, in Miami, at the
Dade County Medical Examiner Office and IACP Seminar,
he taught a course on Strangulation and Other Compressions."

Support Staff:
Noel Palma, M.D., Deputy Chief Medical Examiner
Susan Ignacio, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
Chris Wilson, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
Daniel Schultz, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
William A. Pellan, Director of Investigations
Reta Newman, M.A., Director of PCFL

[Diogenesis]

Judge In Schiavo Case Failed To Legally Qualify For Office; Discharge Mandated

In order to qualify for office, judicial candidates must take and file an oath of office before being elected.
According to public records and state statutes, George Greer did not legally qualify for his current term of office and has no legal authority to sit on the case or issue any decisions.
Florida law is explicit that any person who fails to take the required oath shall be immediately discharged, his name removed from the state payroll and not permitted to receive any compensation.
Greer can’t claim that he is a “de facto” officer because he never had title to the office. His name shouldn’t have even been on the ballot according to the records provided by Florida’s Department of State.
Thus the question can be and should be legally raised if Greer has had jurisdiction in any of the adverse rulings affecting Terri Schiavo. Are all of his decisions null and void and should the entire matter be submitted for a new trial before a legally qualified judge?
According to rulings by the Attorney General’s office, statutory and case law, Greer has never qualified for office to gain access to the ballot, failing to file the mandatory oath of office, therefore he was not legally elected.
And even though election officials improperly allowed him access to the ballot, he still failed to comply with the statute which requires him to file his oath of office within 30 days of the commencement of his term.
According to the Department of State, the last oath on file for George Greer is dated Aug. 7, 1998. Although the Division of Elections says that Greer qualified for office on May 3, 2004, to date they have not been able to produce a copy of his oath of office that was presumably filed in order to qualify. VIEW THE ONLY OATH OBTAINABLE-CLICK HERE [must have Acrobat Reader]
The copy of the 1998 oath that they have produced for Greer is not in the proper form as required by statute which automatically disqualified him from the 1998 election. By law, his name should not have been on the ballot and therefore, he allegedly illegally served a six-year term as a judge and unlawfully collected compensation for the position.

[Rockpile]

WELL SHAZZAM!!! That's amazing but of course nothing is likley to come of it. Rules and laws are just for the little people. There will probably be an ---umm, ex post facto filing---by Greer and the requisite paperwork will be "suddenly discovered" lurking in the back of a filing cabinet at the elections office.

[Rockpile]

Also, I still think that Mikey is a candidate for an "unfortuneate accident" once things die down. He may think he's big dog on the block but to his masters he's still just a dog.

[redheadtoo]

Jodi's family owned the insurance company that paid the Schiavo claim

Wow, seems like a nice legal way to embezzle the company funds. I would not be surprised with the connection. Michael Schiavo, George Felos, Judge Greer, and the hospice where Terri died are all joined in a rat's nest of interconnections and conflicts of interest.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Nobody was murdered and Wecht is on the take. He has shown that he will slant his testimony to suit his benefactor. In this case Schindler, et al. He should be denied access to the autopsy.

And what, pray tell, evidence are you basing your conclusions on?

NOTHING, noi original documents, no original interviews, no real sources at all I've read (outside of the pro-death MSM soundbites of Felos' lies - which are NOT evidence by the way - supports your conclusion.

[Robert A Cook PE]

No, Micheal might live.

But I fully expect his "wife" to be hospitalized, shot with insulin, or beat to death in less than 5 years.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

do we hold islam responsible for terrorism or the individuals who carry out acts of terrorism? The same applies to this unholy trinity of husband, lawyer and judge

I'm not opposed to going after the three principals in the case. But, like Islam, the greater problem here is the death cult of Scientology.

And I'm still trying to figure out how we hold them responsible for anything. Pinellas County, Florida is, for all intents and purposes, a reservation of Scientology operating independent of U.S. law. If the ME is one of them (as it seemed to be in the Lisa McPherson case), Terri's hope for justice pretty much ends with him.

[Fred Nerks]

See letter to Gov Bush from Law officer Jack McLamb, Ret. President of the American Citizens & Lawmen Association. I printed it out, here's the print-link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=1371924%2C248

Jack McLamb may be interested in the status of the judge.

Credit: Warriormom.

[Continental Soldier]

Perhaps, if and when the "husband" does choose to speak with the media, you may have reason to change your mind about him. Or not. It is, after all, the media that has fed your fury in this matter. Don't misunderstand me, I would have opted for endless second chances for Terri, but I am not someone even close to knowing her real wishes in this sad matter. I have to assume, and the courts, after due consideration, have ruled, that her husband was privy to that knowledge and has properly persued her wishes.

[mommadooo3]

D..... are you familiar with Alamo-Girls' Downside Legacy?

If you ARE, I'm CONVINCED that the same formatting of info in THIS case, is sorely needed.

[Fred Nerks]

I'm an aussie and where I live what I am about to ask you is known here as 'having a go at you' so here goes:

Would you please tell me why it is that you believe you 'have to assume' anything at all?

I really would like to know - is the truth too confronting?

Terri suffered a spinal injury. She was 'legally' put to death. Don't you want to know how she was injured and who was responsible? I'm thousands of miles away but that doesn't stop me from asking questions. Aussies are pretty hard to scare. Are you frightened, or do you prefer to remain blind?

[The Wizard]

the actions of a guilty man......

[Fred Nerks]

Worth repeating, don't you think?

Top Neurologist's Report on Terri Released: (snip)

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"Spinal Exam: The patient's exam from a spinal perspective is abnormal. The degree of limitation of range of motion, and of spasms in her neck, is consistent with a neck injury. The abnormal sensory exam, that shows evidence of her hypoxic encephalopathic strokes (right side sensory responses are different from left) also suggests a spinal cord injury at around the level of C4. Her physical exam and videotapes also suggest a spinal cord injury is also present, as she has much better control over he face, head, and neck, than over her arms and legs. This reminds one of a person with a spinal cord injury who has good facial control, but poor use of arms and legs. It is possible that a correctable spinal abnormality such as a herniated disk may be found that could be treated and result in better neurological functioning. This should be looked for, as may be treatable. Thus, there may be an injured disk or spinal cord; the disk injury is more treatable, the spinal cord injury, if present without a disk injury, may be more difficult to treat. A person with a spinal cord injury and hypoxic encephalopathy will need different treatment and rehab recommendations than one who just has a hypoxic encephalopathic.

Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated."

TERRI SUFFERED A SPINAL INJURY! WE WANT TO KNOW HOW.

[Fred Nerks]

Did you see #531 here? I pinged you.

[Kryptonite]

Thank you Dio.

I've been away for a few days. This is very suspicious.

[Domestic Church]

Major no no to use white out on medical records...not even allowed at the nursing station desks in hospitals I've worked in. I have filled out death certificates. It is possible that the Terminal Diagnosis was left blank for the attending physician (who never signed!)

I expect that hospice won't be around very long now.

[BykrBayb]

The medical examiner probably wrote his report a couple weeks ago. I never expected him to allow any objective observers, and I don't expect him find anything other than absolute proof that Michael is a saint.