Posted on 03/21/2005 7:50:03 AM PST by Pendragon_6
I "ignore" nothing. Rejecting disinformation is NOT the same thing. People is this condition are allowed to die everyday in this condition. It is rather commonplace when there is not a litigious family backed by fanatics in the picture. Fanatics who will accept even the most absurd lies without a pause.
She is not "being allowed to die". To lock someone up and refuse them ANY food and water is not "allowing them to die" -- it is actively killing them.
She has been dead for years by any measure. An autonomic system without consciousness is not life in human terms. MS realized that she was dead after years of hope against hope that she could recover. One is not a real living human without a cerebral cortext.
ANY MAN THAT COULD STARVE A WOMAN TO DEATH WHILE HER MOTHER IS BEGGING HIM NOT TO IS A HARD-HEARTED SON OF A BITCH WHO SHOULDN'T BE BELIEVED BY THE COURTS OR ANYBODY ELSE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE THE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO RECOVER EMOTIONALLY WHEN WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO WATCH A WOMAN BE MURDERED RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. THIS IS THE MOST HORRIBLE CULTURAL EVENT I'VE EVER WITNESSED. I PRAY THAT WE WILL GET A LEADER THAT WILL CHECK AND BALANCE THE JUDICIAL BRANCH BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO MURDER ANY MORE PATIENTS. I'M SERIOUSLY DISSAPOINTED IN THE PRESIDENT AND GOVERNOR.
> About that “loving husband” crapola: what husband do you know evinces his marital fidelity and love by living with
another woman, having children with that woman and dumps his wife in a hospice while waiting for her to die? What loving husband kills his sick wife's pet? What loving husband denies his wife's family visitation?
As well as depriving her of rehabilitation and reportedly kept her confined with a broken wheelchair, blinds drawn, no family photos, little TV or radio and minimization of other avenues of mental stimulation.
Considering what is known about how HINO has abandoned Terri, this description: "In her hospice room, she is surrounded by stuffed animals." from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7290818/page/4/ ought to be taken with a large grain of salt. Sounds out of character and is likely an attempt by the HINO/Felos operation to repair the despised reputation he's earned for himself.
Hmm...
MS seems to have no cerebral cortex judging from his behavior. He might not be human. We ought to be allowed to do the logical thing and open his skull up to see what's in there.
I'm sure I can get over it, but I don't think Terri will...
susie
I suspect it is doing far more damage to our rule of law when we accept something so clearly not in the best interests of a fellow human being because the letter of the law was followed. I personally don't worship the legal system as so many seem to. If the laws and judges overstep the bounds of humanity there should be some redress. It appears there is not. Terri will die, I have no doubt, but the public, with luck, will awaken.
Saying that her husband has total authority over her life and death sounds far more like what we might encounter in a country where we are considered infidels. It is not a very American value, regardless of what Judge Greer thinks.
susie
I have told my spouse (and my children) that I don't want to be starved or dehydrated to death (they have expressed the same to me) and my husband and I also agreed that we would leave the decision on everything else to each other. He said the most selfless thing I have ever heard when we were discussing it. He told me that if I needed to keep him on machines or whatever for MY peace of mind, that it was ok with him. Of course, he is an extraordinary person.
susie
The difference is (I assume, since I don't know the particulars of your wife's death and am loathe to ask) that Terri was not dying. Not until they stopped feeding her. I would die too if they stopped feeding me. In fact, so would you.
susie
Broken bones were noted soon after her arrival at the hospice.
I'm sad that your beloved wife went through such suffering. It must have been unbearable, and I'm sorry her family still harbors resentment. I'd be reluctant to draw parallels between that and Terri's predicament, though. We've seen the tip of the iceberg here, despite all the years of legal wrangling, and the most despicable aspect of this is that it's all about money.
If Michael Schiavo proves guilty of having abused his wife and all the rest of this sorry saga, you'd be the first to want to see him punished. Her parents have every right to know how and why she ended up in this state, and if there was wrongdoing, that whoever committed it shouldn't get away with it. Terri, herself, will soon be in God's capable Hands, but there's the larger question of the disabled and handicapped and 'quality of life'. Dwindling resources and where do you put the money? Where does life begin and end? Abortion on demand. Third trimester abortion...population control...and that's what it is. Jesus, well, what would Jesus do? I don't think He'd starve anyone to death. We bumble along, science makes incredible advances, and everything just gets more complicated.
I posted earlier that my paternal grandmother, years ago, had breast cancer...this was in the twenties. Her surgeon brothers treated her for several years, cutting her to pieces. They were fine surgeons, the best, but there was nothing they could do to stop the cancer. She was in such agony, they put her on morphine, higher and higher doses of it until she was a raving heroin addict...and even that didn't stop the pain. No hope of a cure, no hope of ameliorating the pain, no hope at all. So, after a discussion they came to the conclusion that there was nothing to do but euthanize her with an overdose. It was murder, of course, but they adored her and didn't see any other recourse. I think I was about six when my dad told me this.
There is a small medical facility/nursing home in the next town whose clients are gravely impaired, handicapped, and in some cases comatose children. One wonders what the staff and parents think about Terri and what impact her case will have on them.
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