Michael Schiavo: A refusal to quit in the face of threats, anguish and vitriol.

The Inquirer ^ | Mar. 20, 2005 | Sandy Bauers

[Miss Behave]

The poster's content is interesting.

What's your big point?

[FBD]

A direct question to those of you who defend Mr. Schiavo's marital status, rights, and obligations to Terry Schiavo:

Who is Michael Schiavo more beholden to: Terry Schiavo, or the mother of his two children- Jodi Centonze?

I suppose one could argue he is responsible and beholden to both...if one endorses bigamy....

I'm sure you three won't agree with any of this opinion piece from the WSJ below, but I'll post it for your (hopefully) honest consideration.
Regards

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What kind of husband is Michael Schiavo?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006451

"According to news reports, Mr. Schiavo lives with a woman named Jodi Centonze, and they have two children together. Surely any court would consider this prima facie evidence of adultery. And this is no mere fling; a sympathetic 2003 profile in the Orlando Sentinel described Centonze as Mr. Schiavo's "fiancée." Mr. Schiavo, in other words, has virtually remarried. Short of outright bigamy, his relationship with Centonze is as thoroughgoing a violation of his marriage vows as it is possible to imagine.

The point here is not to castigate Mr. Schiavo for behaving badly. It would require a heroic degree of self-sacrifice for a man to forgo love and sex in order to remain faithful to an incapacitated wife, and it would be unreasonable to hold an ordinary man to a heroic standard.

But it is equally unreasonable to let Mr. Schiavo have it both ways. If he wishes to assert his marital authority to do his wife in, the least society can expect in return is that he refrain from making a mockery of his marital obligations. The grimmest irony in this tragic case is that those who want Terri Schiavo dead are resting their argument on the fiction that her marriage is still alive."

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[Randjuke]

The poster's content is interesting.

What's your big point?

JUST TRYING TO INJECT A LITTLE HUMOR.

[UCANSEE2]

(correction: Force her -through- it)

Yes. But it is not my fault. It's the fault of Microsoft, Bill Gates, IBM,Webster,and website owners.

If God didn't want CAPS to be used he shouldn't have put them on keyboards.

All kidding aside, I have had several people refer to my use of CAPS on words I am trying to emphasize. They tell me I am not supposed to do that. That it is reserved (by the order of the Grand Wizard of Webaccessers) for when you are YELLING!

As I stated on another thread, our typed words here are the only method of representation we have.

Facial expressions,hand gestures, tone, loudness are not there.

So, what is the accepted way to indicate RAISING MY VOICE , or EMPHASIZING STRONGLY?

What is the accepted way to indicate WHISPERING?

Funny part, those who complain about the caps, and tell me I shouldn't do that because it indicates YELLING, don't realize that sometimes, that is exactly what I want it to mean.

[Stone Mountain]

Yes, but HIS morality doesn't have anything to do with the legal proceedings in this case.

This is the one thing I wish more people would understand about this case when discussing it...

[blastdad51]

Maybe you're right, maybe this is Micheal way of showing Terri how much he loves her.

All I have to go on is my life experience, I've been married to the same wonderful lady for 30 yrs now. She means more to me than life itself, if my wife was to be injured I would sell everything I own and mortgage my house to get the money to help her heal. It's been my experience that this is what people do to help loved ones who've been hurt. Years ago I worked with a man who's wife had a massive stroke and as a result was a terrible mess, (she was bedridden, couldn't talk or feed herself, needed diapers, you name it you had to do it for her) This guy quit his job and found a way of making a living from home so he could be there to take care of his wife. When this first happened I couldn't understand how he would want to do such a thing, I certainly wouldn't have. several years later I saw him at the mall, he was pushing a wheelchair with his wife in it. I stopped and talk with them for probably an hour, He told me the most rewarding thing in his life came about six months earlier when his wife who still had trouble speaking said to him " I love You, how do I repay you for saving my life ?"

That man truly loved his wife. I hope I would be strong enough to do the same for my wife, I say this because I have no doubt she'd make all the same sacrifices for me.

Now I say these things to remind you that I haven't read or heard of Micheal Schaivo making any effort to help her except the minimum He long ago hooked up with another woman and has a couple kids with her for cryin out loud. Maybe I just don't get it, sorry for being so dense.

[beyond the sea]

Oh please, she's already called me a liar. --- No, she never did that at all.

However, I did my research, and she is actually playing the "above the fray" game. ---- The lady has had very personal experiences on this level, and has been in the fray. She knows very well of what she speaks.

Please respect that.

[UCANSEE2]

Don't worry Miss B. I took it as he meant it, in light-hearted fun. A little relief from the seriousness of Terri's plight.

And Thank you for your concern. I 'saw' that too.

[Stone Mountain]

The fact he didn't demonstrates how CORRUPT he is.

Why do you think he is acting corruptly? Do you think he was bribed? Or that he is deliberately flaunting the law in order to advance a personal agenda? I understand you disagree with Greer, but I don't understand the corruption part...

[UCANSEE2]

The problem for Michael is that he had decided (maybe before Terri's accident) that he wanted her to just die. He went on with his life, engaged, had two children, melted down her wedding ring and had it turned into a new ring for himself, killed her cats, got rid of everything that reminded him of her.

PROBLEM WAS, he didn't expect the 'termination' to take this long, and he never had any idea he would have the MSM and THOUSANDS on the internet watching his every move and investigating the manner in which he pursued her death, and took her rehab/personal care money.

So, now he has been forced to attempt to explain these CONTRADICTIONS and his rationalizing is almost humorous.

He could have divorced her long ago, allowed her parents to deal with things, and been off the hook.

No one would have had any reason to complain about him taking that course of action, and I am reasonably sure her parents would not have objected.

BUT, he hung on (ostensibly because of his concerns for Terri and her wishes and his concern to remain FAITHFUL (oh, come on MICHAEL, you can't be serious!) to her wishes.

I bet her first wish was DONT KILL ME.

I bet one of them was I WANT FOOD AND WATER until I DIE NATURALLY.

I bet one of them was TAKE GOOD CARE OF MY CATS.

Did he honor any one of those wishes?

We know he didn't. So, ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS.

[Stone Mountain]

What is the accepted way to indicate WHISPERING?

You write it small like this...

[dfwgator]

Don't foget the fact that he never once mentioned her supposed desire to "die rather than live like that" until AFTER the $1 million malpractice settlement.

As Cyndi Lauper put it, "Money Changes Everything."

[TChris]

"the epitome of loyalty."

Yeah, he's that all right. Moved right in with his girlfriend and mother of his children to demonstrate his monumental loyalty too.

[stylin_geek]

Because I am not going to defend myself to a liar.

From her post #496 on this thread. This would be at least the second time in this thread she called me a liar.

I did my research, I suggest you do yours before taking sides.

[beyond the sea]

From her post #496 on this thread. This would be at least the second time in this thread she called me a liar.

Hmmm, well ........ when the shoe fits ........

;-)

[UCANSEE2]

Thank you for your response.

Why do you think he is acting corruptly?

Well, take the decision's and rulings by the Federal government as it pertains to this case, last night, and today.

Judge Greer told them to 'stick it'.

Another reason. Judge Greer was Custodian of Terri's Insurance Settlement money, awarded for "her hospital care and Rehabilitation".

Nowhere did it say "for paying lawyers to help put her to death".

Judge Greer authorized Michael to take the money and spend it on hiring FELOS, A WELL KNOWN DEATH ADVOCATE LAWYER IN FLORIDA, to file a pleading in front of JUDGE GREER to have TERRI put to DEATH.

That is a direct and obvious CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

So, I don't 'think' he is corrupt, I 'think' he UNDENIABLY PROVED IT, but it is being IGNORED by everyone.

Let's say you were very well off and were incapacitated somehow.

Would you want the person who you left IN CHARGE OF YOUR MONEY to give it to someone who told them they wanted to use it to KILL YOU?

Why would Judge Greer allow that? Maybe because there are other issues that involve higher dollar amounts.

Like part of the $14 million in scammed MEDICARE FUNDS that the government has filed claims against FELOS to recover, where over 150 patients were MISDIAGNOSED as TERMINALLY ILL so they could take them into the SUNCOAST HOSPICE, ignore them, scam the money, then terminate them the same way they are doing Terri. No FOOD, no WATER, No light, No medicine.

BLATANT MURDERING going on with the permission of the JUDGE.

The Judge had apparently already decided on Terri's case BEFORE HE HEARD THE EVIDENCE, since he approved letting Michael have the money to hire FELOS since that was before he heard that evidence and made the ruling.

CORRUPT, HIDDEN AGENDA, HIDDEN MOTIVES, GREED.

Seems to fit.

It turns out that almost every politician in FLORIDA that supports Judge Greer's decision in this case is also a contributor to his reelection campaigns.

People say, Oh, another CONSPIRACY NUT.

Well, here's another conspiracy. Posters ask why didn't the police do something? Well, MIKEY'S MOM worked in the SHERIFF's OFFICE for years. Alledgedly, the local LE's had instructions to ignore calls to the SCHIAVO's house for domestic violence concerns.

Now MIKEY has a new job, working......... FOR THE SHERRIF'S OFFICE. As a JAIL NURSE (I never heard of any jail that had a nurse). The SHERIFF said, "Yep, his application was RIGHT ON TOP of the PILE. I never read it, but that is what I was told".

[tuffydoodle]

Hang in there.

I would like to say that just because someone has experience in the discussion at hand, that doesn't make them right. I think we'd be surprised at how many people have first hand experience with "right to die/right to live" arguments.

[UCANSEE2]

Well, any thoughts, perceptions?

[UCANSEE2]

Sorry, couldn't hear what you were saying.

[stylin_geek]

From claiming she didn't call me a liar to "the shoe fits."

Since I proved you wrong, I guess I can "consider the source" in regards to that comment.

Again, I challenged her assertions, she engaged in name calling.

As for "above the fray" I suggest you read Orwell and try to understand that neutrality in the face of evil is tacit approval of evil.