It's not the first time we have seen it.
Posted on 03/18/2005 2:55:38 PM PST by spycatcher
I am eating only to survive. I had an orange and a handful of chips and water today. A box of raisins.
"The particular physician who said this about Terri in court also said it about a policeman who had been shot, that the policeman should be dehydrated to death as he would never awaken. "
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Socratic:
The sentence is "death", or put another way, the sentence which her legal guardian is imposing on her based on her alleged wish. Also, your analogy to political dissidents is obviously a hyperbole.
DJ:
Yes, a feeding tube. An artificial, life-prolonging device which may be legally removed as per the judge's orders.
Recovering_Democrat:
You've been reported for abuse. If you can't behave like an adult, then don't expect to be treated like one. The law doesn't and shouldn't care about what anyone but the legal guardian has to say on the subject. You can't just flout the law when it flies in the face of your personal beliefs.
I'm amazed at the number of people who believe starvation of another human being is acceptable.
Cranford has testified that patients in a PVS have “no hope of recovery,” but this is simply untrue. A number of people found to be “unrecoverable” have, in fact, recovered. Cranford himself diagnosed Sergeant Richard Mack, a police officer shot in the line of duty, as “definitely...in a persistent vegetative state...never to regain cognitive, sapient functioning.” Almost two years later, Mack “woke up.” He eventually regained almost all his mental abilities.
In which case blacks should still not be sitting in the front of the bus, and the Boston Tea Party should never have happened.
It's not the first time we have seen it.
This one amazes me as well...when is starvation not a form of abuse or torture? When it's done to someone who has an inability to talk clearly.
Wampus SC, creator.
you wouldn't (or maybe you would) believe how many registered sex offenders live near our local elementary school...
Food and water have indeed been classified as medical treatment, even when given by spoonfeeding, in the courts.
If that doesn't frighten you, then you are really in need of a good history lesson.
This is truly amazing. How wonderful after all of this haggling. It seems to me that if a family has the money to support a relative in this terrible condition, and there really is a chance of some sort of recovery, they should be allowed to do it. If she responded in any way...that is just great. I keep remembering the book "Johnny Got His Gun" when I hear about this "case," and it pains me a lot.
What horrors there are in this world, and I hope people on all "sides" learn to appreciate how wondeful life really is for them, personally, compared to that of so many others.
Life itself is such a beautiful and precious thing, and consciousness of it, even consciousness itself, should not ever be taken for granted. After all, we fight wars to prevent the wholesale or cavalier taking of human life, and to give those who suffer at the hands of others a chance for a better life, while they have it, wherever they are. We pay dearly to do this favor for them, and evidently, even if their memories are proven to be short later on. We would do it again, I think....if only because we know that we should, even if we are the only ones.
We are THE America, and we just try to keep doing it, get slapped for it, and do it anyway, even almost or completely alone. We have to, because we have learned fundamental things from the benefits we have experienced here, since our nation was founded the way it was, what we stood for, and how we tried to live these many years, even stumbling and erring so much along the way, as we know that we did. It is human to err, and also human to improve with enlightment...well...at least it is in this grand old place. America, the rare -- and important.
Michael insisted that no recording devices be allowed in to "protect Terri's privacy". Her parents or the few visitors she is allowed to have won't go against this for fear of Michael revoking those visiting rights.
"Minneapolis neurologist Ronald Cranford, a family friend and regular expert witness in favor of removing food and fluids in cases like Nancy's, said Joe had been chronically depressed for some time. According to Cranford, Joe was "an ordinary man with extraordinary abilities." "But he ran out of energy after [Nancy] died," Cranford said. Commenting on Joe's death by hanging, Cranford added that, in his opinion, Joe's was "a rational suicide" since "he was never going to get better." [American Medical News, 9/2/96:8]
"I don't know if anyone has given you info yet but this document was filed to request pictures of Terri before her death because they aren't allowed."
Well, that sort of answers if any of the pictures or videos were recent, dosen't it ?
Curiously, it DOES say that Terris reactions are affected by the medications given her - ??? I thought she received NO medications ?
Too bad the website didn't post the original order nor do they post the results of the hearing that was supposed to be held on the 4th to handle all these motions ...
I was too, until I followed the link earlier on this thread to a video of Terri laughing at something her father said. He referred to something about her eyes that she and her family used to laugh about when she was a child. When he made the comment, she definitely laughed out loud. That woman is not brain dead.
I always thought that Doctors took a "HYPOCRATICAL OATH" to save human lives, not torture or murder them slowly! What the hell ever happened to that oath?
How about 33 affidavits from medical professionals? How about the fact that Terri could walk and eat with help when Michael cut off her rehabilitation? I'm sure no facts in the world would sway a deathmonger like you.. as long as Terri dies, that's all that matters isn't it?
They were from 2002. Her parents were banned by Schiavo from seeing her for awhile because of it. They petitioned the court to get visiting rights back.
Curiously, it DOES say that Terris reactions are affected by the medications given her - ??? I thought she received NO medications ?
She is given pain meds for her menses.
Too bad the website didn't post the original order nor do they post the results of the hearing that was supposed to be held on the 4th to handle all these motions ...
There were lots of news articles about the rulings. According to their PR lady,they can get photos but the court keeps the pics until after Terri's death.
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