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Rice fuels rumours that it’s Condi v Hillary in 2008
The Sunday Times ^
| March 13, 2005
| Tony Allen-Mills
Posted on 03/12/2005 4:43:56 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: zook
Waaaaaaa!
RINOs in the minority and they just can't stand it....
To: MadIvan
Anyone who describes her faith as "deeply" important and then refuses to be guided by it, on a matter as clearly evil as abortion, doesn't get my vote. Maybe she will mature as a Christian and as a politician, but I tend to be optimistic.
Condi nominated on the Republican ticket spells a split that will keep Republicans out of the White House. There is simply no way that Dobson, Falwell, Robertson and the rest will be able to mobilize the evangelical vote if she maintains this position.
To: zeppenwolf
"You" guys-- the ones willing to fracture the Republican party over ideological purity...It is you RINOs who are seeking to fracture the party over ideological purity...we "extremists" were here first!
To: Vote 4 Nixon
It's time to grow up and look beyond petty sexist differences.
She's done a wonderful job in positions of executive power.
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:01:22 AM PST
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: Cicero
I'm afraid I feel obliged to say again that her announcing in the context of running for the presidency that she is "moderately pro-choice" simply disqualifies her. Period.
A hearty amen. Are the RINOS ready for Evangelicals and Catholics to stay home?
To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Condi Rice has the best bead on the abortion issue I've seen articulated yet.
The *only* thing left for her to do is to remand the issue back to the states *after* she's been elected President and then selected as Chief Justice of Supreme Court.
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:04:08 AM PST
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: Maelstrom
She's done a wonderful job in positions of executive power.
The folks who say elections are about competence and not ideology lose. Ask Michael Dukakis.
To: farmer18th
The President no longer has a say on the issue. See to your Supreme Court and go after them on your single issue disqualification.
You'd prefer Gore to Bush as Bush's stance is farther pro-choice than Rice's.
Hell...so was Reagan's prior to his election.
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:06:25 AM PST
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: farmer18th
Michael Dukakis had a bad ideology, Condi Rice does not have that ideology.
Hers is quite satisfactorily conservative.
Condoleeza Rice is more conservative than George W Bush...and that makes her a "far right" candidate with respect to his father.
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:08:27 AM PST
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: zook
They're not going to vote Dem, and 89% won't stay home. Those that do will be offset by the surge of moderate black and women voters thrilled to finally have a winner on the presidential ticket
You are articulating a losing argument both on principle and on pragmatism. Geraldino Ferraro didn't push Walter Mondale into office. If you think the American moderate center is stupid enough to be wooed by labels like "black woman centrist," you are saying that people will buy mustard if you put a catsup label on it. The issues will come out, and the American people are beginning to vote values. Condi is too immature on the values front to get that vote, and without it, she will lose.
To: Maelstrom
The President no longer has a say on the issue. See to your Supreme Court and go after them on your single issue disqualification
Only someone totally abandoned to principle, and to history, could argue that, but if you look at Scalia, or O'Connor, for that matter, you might get an inkling how much the president has to say about the issue.
To: Maelstrom
Hers is quite satisfactorily conservative.
Kindly explain to me how "mildly pro-choice" means conservative?
To: Maelstrom
Condi Rice has the best bead on the abortion issue I've seen articulated yet.
Her "bead" on abortion: government shouldn't have a role in it. Well, not quite. Partial birth abortion is bad. Outlaw that. Let parents know about it. Make that a law. Put a little dash of government there.
It doesn't sound like the position of a principled person, or a person who has ever actually seen the results of an abortion. It sounds like the position of a survey taker.
To: MadIvan
Not going to happen. Lets be real here. Do Americans really want Hillary the lesbian ( or whatever she is) sleezy ex lawyer socialist as president.
Condi is smart but does not have all the components to be prez. For one she is single and has never really governed.
There may be back room deals being made but I don't think the American public are going to buy a woman as prez at this time.
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:32:37 AM PST
by
jetson
(throne)
To: exit82
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:36:12 AM PST
by
Rakkasan1
(Keep capitol punishment safe,legal , and rare...)
To: zook
The conservative "purist" death wish strikes again!
Not this time. Ever wonder why Pete Wilson disappeared? Ever wonder why Hillary Clinton is making soothing clucks in the direction of the pro-life lobby? Ever wonder why the Democrats put a Mormon "values" guy at the head of the minority in the senate?
Republican economic conservatives, who don't understand why middle America is tired of paying for the abort and divorce culture, are really closer to John Kerry and Barbara Boxer on this issue, and they are going to be surprised by it, if they think they can hold a coalition together without pro-lifers.
George Bush didn't use the "sanctity of life" rhetoric by accident.
To: MadIvan
Qualifications:
Black, woman, Republican (in your liberal face, unique)
White, woman, liberal, former first lady.
If Rice is the best the party can do, or if those two are the best we can hope for, we're in big trouble.
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:40:04 AM PST
by
lewislynn
(My other car is an XC90 T6 AWD....)
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Never forget that the MSM will be for any Republican that they think will lose to a democRAT.Condi would DESTROY Hillary is they get into the ring together.
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posted on
03/13/2005 9:43:39 AM PST
by
Centurion2000
(Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
To: lewislynn
If Rice is the best the party can do, or if those two are the best we can hope for, we're in big trouble.
Amen. These are trial baloons that will come down on the heads of the RINOS in flaming scraps of burning dacron. I wish all these folks would go over to FreeRINO.com. This is freerepublic.com.
To: Centurion2000
You think a person who has never run for any office would have a chance against a dirty trick master.
BTW, the man who was too lazy to fail was my favorite in time enough for love.
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posted on
03/13/2005 10:20:52 AM PST
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
(When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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