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DELL fires 30 Muslims over workplace prayer
Newswire ^ | 3.10.05

Posted on 03/10/2005 2:40:02 PM PST by ambrose

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To: ambrose
He said CAIR staffers who have experience dealing with workplace religious accommodation are available to act as mediators between the Muslim workers and Dell.

I bet Dell just jumps at the chance to have Cair "mediate"! What kind of idiots ask for a partial mediator?!?

41 posted on 03/10/2005 2:54:01 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: ambrose
CAIR publishes a booklet, called "An Employer's Guide to Islamic Religious Practices,"

Maybe muslims should learn to read another pamphlet

"American Capitalism: Why I don't pay your Sorry a$$ to pray on my time"

42 posted on 03/10/2005 2:54:01 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Veto!

I spent some time in Saudi Arabia and at prayer time they sent all shoppers out of their businesses, locked the doors and went in back for tea.


43 posted on 03/10/2005 2:54:14 PM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: ambrose

and therefore requires greater flexibility and creativity on the part of employers and workers.

REQUIRES??!! I think not.

I think my Religious requirements should be met by my employer as well. Perhaps they will make communion available to me "as oft as I should do it"?


44 posted on 03/10/2005 2:54:39 PM PST by hushpad
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To: USF; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado

This thread is back from the dead!


45 posted on 03/10/2005 2:55:05 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: conserv13

good point. If this were 30 Catholics that were fired for going to get ashes on Ash Wednesday people here would be screaming.


47 posted on 03/10/2005 2:55:36 PM PST by Yinzer
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To: TexasTaysor

There you go. Prayer time is just an extra paid coffee break.


48 posted on 03/10/2005 2:57:35 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions Freely Dispensed as Advice)
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To: ambrose

There's not enough info to form an intelligent opinion about Dell's actions or those of the fired employees (if that is in fact the case).

In general, I am in favor of people not having to leave their religion at the door in the workplace. People - Christians, Jews, Muslims - who want to gather to pray during their lunch hour should be allowed to. That doesn't mean that they should get extra paid time for this activity, or that the employer has to provide a dedicated space. But, if people are willing to meet in an empty conference room when they would normally be chatting it up in the lunch room, what's the harm? It's certainly within the spirit of free exercise of religion that is part of our nation's values.


49 posted on 03/10/2005 2:58:33 PM PST by bin2baghdad
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To: Mamzelle

My group at Intel of 41 people is 33 Muslim ... 2 Chinese ... 3 Indian ... 1 Scotland national (Manager) 1 Canadian ... (none are citizens) and 1 native born American which is me


50 posted on 03/10/2005 2:58:33 PM PST by clamper1797 (This Vietnam Vet ain't Fonda Kerry)
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To: conserv13; USF; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado
If you think this is good, please don't complain when they limit Christian and Jewish prayers, too.

I wonder if Dell will give them extra time over lunch to behead some infidels.

51 posted on 03/10/2005 2:59:00 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: conserv13
If you think this is good, please don't complain when they limit Christian and Jewish prayers, too.

I wouldn't complain at all if during the middle of work 1/2 of the people in the office got up and held a bible study instead of working.

52 posted on 03/10/2005 2:59:58 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: ambrose

If a company hires me to get a job done and I use some of that time to stop working and pray, am I not cheating my employer, abridging the work contract?

Having said that, I will add that when I worked in an office, I prayed all the time, but I didn't quit working to do so. E.g., one can pray while walking to the restroom, on breaks, during lunch, walking to the water fountain, while carrying material between offices, traveling between appointments, etc.

Perhaps it's the Muslims who need to make a reasonable accommodation.


53 posted on 03/10/2005 3:00:12 PM PST by GretchenM (Have no fear. Tag line is not toxic.)
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To: Rodney King

Sorry, I meant, if that happened, I wouldn't complain if they got fired.


54 posted on 03/10/2005 3:00:20 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: traumer

Exactly... this is the U.S.A., many people have fought and died for your right to go find another job where people don't mind if you (eh, hem) "pray" during the WORK DAY!! You also have the right to tip the f*ck out of the country... you won't be missed!


55 posted on 03/10/2005 3:00:37 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: ambrose
I began to lose confidence in Dell when they started a policy against gun ownership. This firing helps to right my anger at Dell.
56 posted on 03/10/2005 3:01:03 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: ambrose

Ain't diversity wonderful?


57 posted on 03/10/2005 3:01:10 PM PST by iconoclast (Better to take refuge in the Lord than to put one's trust in princes. (Psalms 118:9).)
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To: Flyer

And I can assure you they would be absolutely HOSTILE if Christians were praying to the One, True God anywhere NEAR where they were praying to their false god.


58 posted on 03/10/2005 3:01:58 PM PST by freecopper01 (God will grant us the strength for the battle: Will we have the courage to use it?)
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To: conserv13
please don't complain when they limit Christian and Jewish prayers, too.

How can they realistically limit them?

Doesn't the Almighty hear heartfelt prayers even if uttered in silence while one is working?

59 posted on 03/10/2005 3:02:22 PM PST by Freebird Forever (Support your local gunsmith.)
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To: Cindy
Try this one:

Anti-CAIR

60 posted on 03/10/2005 3:02:51 PM PST by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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