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Italian Reporter: U.S. Tank Shot Me (Commie Laughable Lies as thin as air)
NewsMax.com ^ | 03/07/05 | unattributed

Posted on 03/07/2005 9:21:02 PM PST by SandRat

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To: fatima
***What does Stern mean.***

He's a guy on the radio, but that's not important now 1

1: © 1977, Airplane


:-)

81 posted on 03/08/2005 4:41:34 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: RayChuang88
Ms. Sgrena is going to soon find out how the blogosphere is already doing a lot of fact-checking and finding out if her story is true. If she's making up the story, she'll know how Dan Rather felt when Rathergate broke.

What shall we call for any scandals from Sgrena or the incident of shootings? SgrenaGate? ManifestoGate?
82 posted on 03/08/2005 4:51:05 AM PST by Wiz
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To: SandRat
To paraphrase the late great Gen. Phil Sheridan 1
"The only good Communist I've ever seen was dead."

1: Sheridan never said; "The only good Indian is a dead Indian".

83 posted on 03/08/2005 5:34:57 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: SandRat

Soon she will have the office next to Ward Churchill and be teaching American history.


84 posted on 03/08/2005 5:36:53 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: jaykay

I think you've got it. Much smoke and mirrors to deflect from the real story - the ransom paid.


85 posted on 03/08/2005 5:42:50 AM PST by Sabatier
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To: bray; All
Uh oh, more inconsistency spotted on the incident of the shootings. The expected speed of the vehicle is being altered and several versions of stories are coming from Italy.

AP - Italy Foreign Minister Disputes U.S. Claim

Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini, speaking to parliament, also ruled out suggestions that the shooting that killed Nicola Calipari was the result of an ambush, but reiterated the government's demands for a full explanation from Washington.

"The car was traveling at a velocity that couldn't have been more than 40 kilometers (25 miles) per hour," Fini said. There were no attempts to stop the car, as indicated by the U.S. military, he added.


Guess what mr. Fini have said on another day.

Reuters - Italy doubts US version of Iraq shooting

As they neared the airport, the car slowed to about 40-km/h because the road was wet and because the driver had to make a sharp turning. Half way around the curve, a searchlight picked out the car and guns opened fire for 10-15 seconds, Fini said.

Reuters - Italy doubts U.S. version of Iraq shooting

According to Italy's leading daily Corriere della Sera, the driver, an unidentified Italian agent, said: "We were driving slowly, about 40-50 km/h (25-30 mph)."

Sgrena, if my memory is correct, claimed 50 Km/h (30mph), and the soldiers claimed 80km/h (50mph). While there is a gap between Italy and the US on the speed, there is also gaps beween Sgrena, the driver and mr. Fini. I wonder if anyone had an eye on the speed meter in the vehicle second by second?
86 posted on 03/08/2005 6:14:51 AM PST by Wiz
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To: ApplegateRanch

BINGO! Little split with the "terrorists" to fund her Communist brotherhood?


87 posted on 03/08/2005 6:41:20 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: warsaw44

I believe it was actually a secret space based rail gun.
Damn Star Wars crap


88 posted on 03/08/2005 6:42:57 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: rebel_yell2
"She's no worse than Eleanor Clift, who I saw on Fox say that the Italians were still pissed about a "trigger-happy " American pilot who killed several Italians in the Alps a year or so ago, in reference to the incident where an A-6 accidentally cut a ski lift cable, killing several civilians. How this is "trigger-happy" only Eleanor can tell us, the commie bitch."
What kind of pilot would intentionally run into a ski lift cable? That would mean death to the pilot and crew of the AC in most circumstances.
89 posted on 03/08/2005 6:45:03 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: American in Israel

He was flown back to Italy for the funeral. If they didn't autopsy, that's prima facie evidence of a cover up. Autopsies are routine. A couple of hours and then you have all the samples you need to investigate as thoroughly as you want. Autopsy is also necessary to ensure that the cause of death is the same as what you THINK the cause of death is.


90 posted on 03/08/2005 6:53:48 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: American in Israel

I was thinking that she probably would have been placed on teh floor or maybe laying on the back seat to keep her out of view. So she would never have seen a check point or signals by soldiers to slow down.
If you had just been released by kidnappers, you would be driving as fast as possible to get out of dodge...am I wrong?


91 posted on 03/08/2005 6:54:23 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: Original Kamaaina

I don't consider socialist to be a kinder, gentler communism any more. It's pretty much all the same to me.


92 posted on 03/08/2005 6:56:36 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: SandRat

If the USA wanted her dead... there is little chance she would still be whining


93 posted on 03/08/2005 6:58:12 AM PST by Porterville (Down with politicians.... Down with Judicial Fiat)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

As she is a commie, the proper approach to her kidnapping should have been: please keep her, and as long as you do, we might even negotiate per diem allowance...


94 posted on 03/08/2005 7:29:14 AM PST by GSlob
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To: SandRat

Rest assured that if she had been "targeted" by US Forces, she would not have been able to give interviews the next day.

Perhaps the solution is to return her to the insurgents, get back the ransom money and let her live with her kind forever after.

Or may be she would like to have another run at freedom. Practice makes perfect.


95 posted on 03/08/2005 11:19:11 AM PST by OESY
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To: SandRat

Both sides agree the incident occurred at a checkpoint.
Both sides agree the car did not stop at the checkpoint.

Do the math: war-zone checkpoint plus car not stopping equals ... ?

Oh, right, 2+2=5, Winston Smith...


96 posted on 03/08/2005 11:24:40 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Wiz

Michelle Malkin has this interesting little tidbit on her site.........
CNN DOES IT AGAIN
By Michelle Malkin · March 08, 2005 06:49 AM
Yesterday, CNN published an article stating:

In an article published Sunday in her communist newspaper, Il Manifesto, Giuliana Sgrena wrote, "Our car was driving slowly," and "the Americans fired without motive."
About 15 minutes after I pointed out that Sgrena's Il Manifesto article said no such thing, CNN quietly removed the fabricated quote and replaced it with this:

In an article published Sunday in her communist newspaper, Il Manifesto, Sgrena also described a "rain of fire and bullets" in the incident.
CNN neither mentioned the change nor provided an explanation as to how the erroneous quote appeared in the article in the first place.

I thought that was the end of it, but this morning I learned that the fabricated quote is back! Bob K., the reader who brought this matter to my attention yesterday, points to this article, published yesterday at 3:32 pm EST. The article reads in part:

CNN's Rome Bureau Chief Alessio Vinci said that in various interviews Sgrena disputed the U.S. account that the car was driving fast and warning shots were fired.
She wrote in her paper that "our car was driving slowly" and that "the Americans fired without motive."


Oops!

We know the quotes didn't come from Sgrena's Il Manifesto article, despite CNN's repeated assertions.

So where do the quotes come from? According to this article, Sgrena's driver that said he was driving slowly:

According to Italy's leading daily Corriere della Sera, the driver, an unidentified Italian agent, said: "We were driving slowly, about 40-50 km/h (25-30 mph)."
Maybe CNN has simply gotten Sgrena confused with her driver. If so, it's not a hanging offense, but I don't think it's too much to expect CNN to note its error and stop repeating it.


97 posted on 03/08/2005 11:28:39 AM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: jaydubya2

Back in the '90's I believe, an A-6 was flying around and goofing off and they went low into a valley where the gondola was and they sliced the cable with their tail. Didn't know what they did until they got back. There was a lot of hell over that one.


98 posted on 03/08/2005 11:31:10 AM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: ArmyTeach

"Are you suggesting that the round that killed him might not have been from a US military weapon? Oh, my..."

The earliest reports, which may have been the most accurate, were that the agent was hit by one round to the temple, "and died instantly."

Hardly sounds like a "hail of bullets," much less a wound from a .50 cal round.

I too want very much to hear what the surviving agents in the car would have to say. I belive nothing from this idiot "journalist"


99 posted on 03/08/2005 11:45:38 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

My cynical mind tells me that surviving agents will say what they are told to say...


100 posted on 03/08/2005 11:58:50 AM PST by ArmyTeach
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