Posted on 02/24/2005 12:32:34 AM PST by ijcr
Right. It´s currently happening in Germany, the people develop a form of hate against those "know-it-all-politicians". 65% of Germans would throw tomatoes on Greens, if they were allowed to.
In my original post, to which you respond, I specified the dictionary W7NCD.
"subject: one that is placed under authority or control" Disarmed, you subjects have no means with which to resist the tyranny of the state.
"citizen: an inhabitant of a city or town; [i]esp[/i] one entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman."
In each case the definition is the first, hence preferred, of the listed alternatives.
The state collects taxes at the point of a gun with our, your's and mine, permissions. I may die a freeman in a disagreeable confrontation with the state. You have no arms (goes beyond mere guns) with which to resist your state. Indeed, it'll likely be a recent immigrant at your doorstep begging, as agent of the state, to be killed.
See my tag line.
dhuffman@awod.com, you cannot possibly resist your state's military and police power. As an individual you have pretty much zero chance of resisting them, no matter what legal firepower you may have. You are restricted by your (U.S.) government (and probably by your wallet) from buying weapons that may guve you a chance of defeating your own government. So by your (not my) definition you are a subject.
As for arms, there's no doubt that the situation in the UK is dire. But there isn't a 100% prohibition on guns in the UK. Some guns are still permitted and a smart person can still be armed (albeit to a much lesser degree than you're used to). If it ever came to the government exercising intolerable tyrrany over the British people, the British Army would be on the side of the British people. I have no doubt at all about that.
what do you mean by "You have no arms (goes beyond mere guns) with which to resist your state. "?
Please understand, I'm not hostile to your position. In fact, I'm very sympathetic to it. I hope your people can make America a beacon to which we can point.
Yes, we have the freedom to make idiodic and racist remarks, but we also have the freedom to denounce those who make them. The important thing to remember, though, is that we have the freedom to tell the truth, even when the government, or anyone else for that matter, doesn't like it.
We also have the freedom to have the means to take the life of an innocent person, but we don't have the freedom to take that life. We do have the freedom to use weapons to defend ourselves against those not so innocent people who would take our lives. Most importantly, however, we have the right to arm ourselves to defend this nation against those who would try to deny us our God given rights.
I'm O.K. with Britain having the edge over us on the ability to see the genitals of other people on your "terrestrial TV channels". I value my freedom to tell the truth and to worship God more than my freedom to see naked people that I don't know. If that was important to me, however, I have satellite TV, so I can see all of the genitals I want. I haven't watched the "terrestrial TV" stations in years.
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