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My Darling, My Blood: Million Dollar Baby
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 18 February 2005 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 02/18/2005 1:10:19 PM PST by mrustow

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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
You're wrong. "The Sea Inside" is pro-euphanasia, "Million Dollar Baby" is a beware-what-you-wish-for story.

Know your movies.

21 posted on 02/18/2005 2:05:10 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: mrustow

I didn't know anything about the pro-euthanasia message in this film but made the conscious decision NOT to see it because any picture about women getting socked in the face for a living (even if it is willingly) does nothing for me.

Zip, zilch, nada!

Everyone should go see "Beyond the Sea". Now THAT is a good movie.


22 posted on 02/18/2005 2:05:38 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (...former Snohomish citizen.)
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To: Deb; mrustow

I wonder why that film hasn't gotten as much criticism.


23 posted on 02/18/2005 2:06:15 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Non-Sequitur

"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you got to ask yourself one question... Do I feel lucky. Well, do ya punk?"

24 posted on 02/18/2005 2:07:04 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
You know, if I wanted to start a thread for movie haters to get on their soap boxes about how much they hate any movie that doesn't slavishly submit to their ideology, I wouldn't have posted a review that makes a point of NOT ruining the movie for people who have yet to see it. You are just miserable.

As for your claims to care so much about life, if that were true, you wouldn't work so hard to make other people's lives miserable.

You're as bad as the damned communists!

25 posted on 02/18/2005 2:08:04 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: AmishDude
Dirty Harry was not promoted as a romantic comedy.

Neither is Million Dollar Baby. It's a drama. And a pretty good one, too.

26 posted on 02/18/2005 2:08:17 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

BTW, movie hater, did you even see the movie you're bashing?


27 posted on 02/18/2005 2:10:15 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Darkwolf377
"My dear, it's only a movie. Don't take it too seriously."--Alfred Hitchcock

Hummm...I wonder haw many people who will read this and say "yah, you uptight busybodies need to get a life" were so level headed when it came to discussing Fahrenheit 911?

28 posted on 02/18/2005 2:10:38 PM PST by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: cyborg

Maybe because it's from Spain and almost no one has seen it. Believe me, it's a beating. Although every character in the movie, except the main one, gave pro-life speeches and tried to stop him...including a paraplegic priest who was in worse condition than him.


29 posted on 02/18/2005 2:10:49 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: frogjerk

Another movie hater. Did you even see the movie?


30 posted on 02/18/2005 2:10:57 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: conservonator
One is a fiction film; one is a fiction film purporting to be a documentary.

You didn't know that?

31 posted on 02/18/2005 2:13:14 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: mrustow
Frankie: Oh, it's the same old, "one God-three God" thing.

Father Horvak: Frankie, most people figure out by kindergarten that it's about faith.

Frankie: Is it sort of like snap, crackle, and pop, all rolled into one big box?

Gotta love those straw man debates in movies. Ever see a shamrock, Clint? Next St. Patrick's day, ponder how he explained the Trinity to the Irish.

32 posted on 02/18/2005 2:14:00 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Darkwolf377
Both are movies and both are designed to elicit a response form its viewers. That's why people make movies: fact, fiction or moorish.
33 posted on 02/18/2005 2:23:48 PM PST by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: Darkwolf377
But judge it as a movie, not as a pro-euthanasia screed, because if it were that there would be no drama in the decision--if he's doing something the movie's point of view says is a good, right thing, why is it shown as a dramatic decision?

HUH??? I'm just hoping you didn't do Film Studies in college. In any case, check out Propaganda in Nazi Germany for a thoughtful commentary on the role of films, some of them technically brilliant (and DRAMATIC) in shaping the consciousness of the Third Reich.

34 posted on 02/18/2005 2:26:04 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Irish Rose
"Sometimes you can tell in seconds that a performer has no talent -- think Sean Combs, Jennifer Lopez, Ben Affleck."

Ouch. So what, are these people incredibly attractive? I've never seen a movie with any of them in it, but I believe that Lopez and Affleck are big-name actors. They're so famous that I, culturally disconnected citizen, recognize their names.

Jennifer Lopez's fans will tell you that she is beautiful, and probably punch your lights out if you disagree, but I worked in The Bronx, and I had lots of Dominican students who were much prettier than her. I think she's just been playing the ethnic card. IOW, she's an affirmative action baby. And nasty! Her abuses of the "little people," like hotel clerks, are legendary.

Sean Combs isn't a bad-looking fellow, but Denzel Washington, he ain't. I think he came along at the right time, and was able to combine his middle-class background, ruthlessness (he caused the deaths of several young people at City College about 16 years ago, when he vastly oversold a performance he produced in a small venue, and people were trampled to death), and the desire of so many black folks to give their money to other blacks, regardless of the latter's talent.

But that leaves Ben Affleck. For him, you're going to need a Delphic Oracle, because his success is one of the great mysteries of the age. He ain't pretty, he doesn't claim to be gay, and I don't think he's that political. The only thing that comes to mind, is that he was friends with Matt Damon (who if you ask me, is a pretty homely cuss) when Damon had his breakthrough, with Good Will Hunting, and may have co-written the Academy Award-winning orginal screenplay to Will with him.

35 posted on 02/18/2005 2:33:04 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I like his old stuff, Josy Wales, Man with no name films, some of the Dirty Harrys. Thats about it.

A few weeks ago, I caught about (second) half of Josey Wales. Liked what I saw. I also like the Italian westerns, Pale Rider (though it can't hold a candle to Shane), the two Dirty Harry movies I've seen, and I love Unforgiven.

36 posted on 02/18/2005 2:39:26 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: satchmodog9
we need some Hillary Swank pictures. Please, no Crusty pics of the other Hillary.

Sorry, but I don't know how to post pics. Frankly, the whole process intimidates me.

37 posted on 02/18/2005 2:41:17 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
But she makes her own luck ... to a point.

This is the closest the reviewer appears to come to even hinting at the euthanasia plot twist.

P.S. Plenty of FReepers have criticized Eastwood for this movie.

I believe that's called being a good movie reviewer, who doesn't ruin movie lovers' viewing pleasure. Did you even bother seeing the flick, movie hater, or are you content to echo Michael and George?

38 posted on 02/18/2005 2:49:00 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: madprof98

Nothing in your letter suggests that you saw the movie, or reflected on it yourself, rather than merely spouting other people's talking points. Yet another movie hater.


39 posted on 02/18/2005 2:52:08 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

Let me guess: You run the box office at the local Cineplex?


40 posted on 02/18/2005 2:54:46 PM PST by madprof98
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