Study finds Windows more secure than Linux

The Seattle Time ^ | 2/17/05 | Brier Dudley

[Bush2000]

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas.

Pity your poor spouse...

[Knitebane]

I agree that the facts presented didn't help you.

But that doesn't make them false, no matter how much you try to shout it down.

[Knitebane]

That evidence of yours will last exactly 1 second in any properly constituted court of law.

I'm not going into a court of law. I'm presenting evidence on a website.

Do you even know where you are?

[dalight]

You mean loses.. after all if they buy a lemon then they end up owning a lemon. As far as small business people running linux... lots of them are and don't know it.. but not on their ... woops.. not alot of them running servers for that matter.. gees.. your point is? I swear it is that sales numbers matter when one product is free and the other is sold.. I just don't get it. One product you just download it and install it and the other you have to staple a hologram to your forehead to run it legally.. I guess you are trying to argue that market share makes Windows more secure? What.. I am lost as to your point.

[Knitebane]

Pity your poor spouse...

At least I have one.

[KwasiOwusu]

"Uhh, Bruce Schneier is widely recognized as one of the foremost authorities on computer security and cryptography in the world"

His report was fatally tainted when it came out he worked with the CCIA, a Microsoft hating trade group at the time, to produce that report.
The guy and his pals sold their souls to the devil.
That report was trashed right after it came out., when the facts leaked out about the agenda those guys were carrying.

[Bush2000]

I agree that the facts presented didn't help you.

You have that backward. Your so-called "facts" didn't help you.

But that doesn't make them false, no matter how much you try to shout it down.

And wishing won't make them true.

[Bush2000]

At least I have one.

Yes, I remember. The bride and the groom looked fetching in medieval peasant garb...

[HolgerDansk]

Grants aren't provided by IBM, Cisco, and Microsoft in a blanket fashion. They're targeted at specific research projects, usually carried out through a combination of faculty and graduate students. The faculty is comprised of a number of individuals, each of which is likely working on completely independent projects.

While I don't disagree with your major premise (that Ford isn't an astroturfer), you're overreaching here. Corporations and other funding agencies issue both targeted and blanket grants to research institutions, if not outright donations for facilities. And, faculty collaborate on projects more often than not, swapping out each other's grad students as needed. ( Ever written a grant proposal? )

You seem to think that Microsoft backs up a truck filled with money to the building and all of the professors start filling their pockets.

Well, no, but that's because they'd have to fight off the starving graduate students first. Seriously, Microsoft does do a lot of block grantwork...

[Psycho_Bunny]

I would never hire someone who told me their platform of choice does everything.  Platforms are tools and like hammers and screwdrivers, they have their strengths and weaknesses.

The Nux uber alles crowd is just as stupid as the MS uber alles crowd.

[Bush2000]

I'm not going into a court of law. I'm presenting evidence on a website.

In other words, you have no standard of proof. Idle speculation is good enough for you.

[Knitebane]

I am too ethical, and clear thinking to accept your NON-evidence and desperate attempts to smear a guy who's only crime was to tell the truth.

Not that anyone having anything to do with Microsoft worries all that much about the truth.

As the defender of a company that steals and lies in court...

and as a defender of a company founded by a man that personally funds abortions and forced sterilizations....

your concept of what's ethical is pretty shocking.

[KwasiOwusu]

"You mean loses"

Nope. I don't.

"As far as small business people running linux... lots of them are and don't know it.. "

LOL!
Yeah?
Linux got installed in their sleep huh?
Listen, even small businessmen in China know to ask for Windows when they go to the street coroner to buy their pirated software.
This is typical open source arrogance from you.
Small businessmen know exactly what they are running, especially since a lot of them use CRM or accounting software that runs only on Windows.

[Bush2000]

Corporations and other funding agencies issue both targeted and blanket grants to research institutions, if not outright donations for facilities. And, faculty collaborate on projects more often than not, swapping out each other's grad students as needed.

The overwhelming majority of grants are targeted at specific research projects.

( Ever written a grant proposal? )

Yes, I have.

[Bush2000]

As the defender of a company that steals and lies in court... and as a defender of a company founded by a man that personally funds abortions and forced sterilizations.... your concept of what's ethical is pretty shocking.

Ergo, you can lie and slander people you oppose because you somehow feel "justified" doing so...

[Bush2000]

Peace, out. I'm off to go have a life. Have a nice weekend.

[Knitebane]

Yes, I remember.

How can you remember? You weren't there. Unless you remember stealing my pictures and posting them, for which you got your post pulled.

The bride and the groom looked fetching in medieval peasant garb...

Wow. You not only know nothing about computer security, system administration, ethics, morals or reality, now you've gone and show us that you don't know anything about medieval garb either.

But then, you don't get out much, sitting there under Ballmer's desk and ...

well, I better not go on, this is a family site.

[Knitebane]

Yes, I have.

Well, why am I not surprised.

No wonder you defend Dr. Ford so vehemently. I guess pigs at the trough have to stick up for one another.

[Knitebane]

Idle speculation is good enough for you.

It's worked for you all these years.

[KwasiOwusu]

"I swear it is that sales numbers matter when one product is free and the other is sold.. "

Try telling Red Hat and Novell that Linux is free.
Fortune 1000 companies and even small business, don't build their own PC's and download Linux on to it.
They buy servers pre-instaled with commercial software and backed by service agreements.
Those are the servers that run American businesses.
Heck the vast majority of even individuals don't build their own PC's.
Very few people have the time
They have real jobs to do.
They just order a Dell, with the OS already installed.