Is homosexuality biological?

nro ^ | Feb 16 05 | Derbyshire

[FormerLib]

LOL!

[Celtjew Libertarian]

I can't inagine it being Divine inspiration for a man to be naturally created to see another mans hairy rear end amd think "I got to have me some of that!"

And yet there are some woman who are also like that. Go fig.

[SedVictaCatoni]

Either that, or our analogy is just plain obvious.

Well, there is the fact that the author used just such an analogy in the article...

[rockabyebaby]

I see we are on the same level!

[DainBramage]

Not the same way.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

If homosexuality is genetic, then why do modern Greeks engage in the practice at a rate that's a fraction of what their ancestors did? Did the Greek genome really change that much in 2000 years?

If homosexuality were so accepted that homosexuals did not feel that they had to pretend to be heterosexual -- i.e., marry and procreate -- that might well reduce the extent to which homosexuality was prevalent in the gene pool.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

A desire that contradicts your physical design is on its face at least abnormal. Some people desire to beat their head against a wall. Not good.

[joe_broadway]

He did an intentional spin job on #1, making it as simple as 'Satan did it'

He is trying to give a caricature of Biblical doctrine that he obviously has a problem with.

He could have said, Christians think Homosexuality is a choice to indulge in a particularly harmful sin, called an abomination. Predisposition or not, it is a choice to dwell upon something and certainly to act upon your urges and imaginations.

I bet the author does not read the Bible and certainly does not believe it, at least where it rubs him the wrong way. He needs to read Romans 1 everyday for a year or two. If he reads very much of the Bible he would probably know why Christians think there actually is a being called Satan.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

And while you are at it, give some more examples from the Bible that shows that other sins are biological.

Procreation outside of marriage.

[TheGeezer]

This unnatural supplement causes post-natal hormone imbalances, and correlates to the relative explosion in homosexuality which has occurred since infant formula was introduced.

The rate of homosexuality in the general population remains fairly constant, at about 3%.

[Kleon]

If homosexuality is genetic, then why do modern Greeks engage in the practice at a rate that's a fraction of what their ancestors did? Did the Greek genome really change that much in 2000 years?

That's a really interesting question, but I think it's based on a misunderstanding of Greek homosexuality.

In ancient Greece, it was common for a young boy to have an intimate relationship with an older man, but it was more of a social relationship than an erotic one. The man was attracted to the boy's features, which were often feminine. Rarely would the relationship continue once the boy reached puberty. The young boy was only in it for the connections the rich, older man could provide.

Homosexuality (the type that is seen today) was actually quite rare in ancient Greece. In fact, a man who lusted after another older man was considered to be abnormal. The most famous example of this is Alcibiades' love for Socrates, which caused many to view him as a pervert.

[truth_seeker]

"The tendancy to be a pedophile is probably biological.

Does not mean being a pedophile is not bad.

Also it does not mean one cannot overcome a predisposition."

A client of mine, that is a Psychiatrist, said she believes that condition yields very high recidivism.

Probability of successful "treatment" is very low.

Solution for society, according to her: Throw the key away, at the first hint of a 2nd offense.

[jimbergin]

absolutely no correlation to this. Who said homosexuality has greatly increased since infant formula has been introduced. Since more and more mothers are opting to breast feed, then based on this theory homosexuality will be gone soon?

[MeanWestTexan]

I would be more concerned with soy formula than normal milk-based formula.

Soy formula (and all soy products, for that matter) contain xeno estrogens. They are very bad for men and have been linked to male breast cancer.

[cryptical]

If homosexuality is biological then please explain to me why the Bible calls it an abomination.

That's the problem with mixing science and religion. It doesn't matter what science says, the Bible cannot be wrong, therefore the science will always be lacking.

[Doc Savage]

If all homos looked and acted line NFL linebackers (and yes, I know there are homos in sports) then I would say perhaps it was a societal induced disease. But when you see literally millions of sashaying, lisping, effeminate homos, one has to conclude that those mannerisms so clearly associated with homos and their behavior must be rooted in genetics.

[jimbergin]

http://content.gay.com/channels/news/heads/001117_gay_twins.html

There have been several studies of twins, at least one of whom is gay. In each case such as that above, in identical twins (obviously with identical DNA) the probability that the identical twin of a gay person was also gay was 50% or less. If there was a gay gene, the result would have to be 100%.

[taxesareforever]

Procreation outside of marriage.

I do believe that the Bible calls that "fornication" and is not considered biological.

[taxesareforever]

That's the problem with mixing science and religion. It doesn't matter what science says, the Bible cannot be wrong, therefore the science will always be lacking.

And that is really my point. Either one will believe science or one will believe the Bible. The Bible can explain science but science can in no way even come close to explaining the Bible. Therefore, there will always be dispute.