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Rep. Harold Ford Jr. will run for Bill Frist's seat
The Hill ^ | 2/16/05 | Bob Cusack and Hans Nichols

Posted on 02/16/2005 9:57:44 AM PST by dead

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To: Fledermaus

This is Bryant's race to lose. I don't know what could prevent him from running (though I do hope Van stays out of it).


201 posted on 02/16/2005 5:08:06 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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To: mariabush

I stand corrected. I thought his mother was white, but I must have him confused with someone else.


202 posted on 02/16/2005 5:08:34 PM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Everything you said, with the exception of 'Didn't run against Gore in '86' was you blaming Lamar for things beyond his control, and saying someone isn't a good party man because he doesn't want to run for a office you want him to is stupid.


203 posted on 02/16/2005 5:13:54 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz; fieldmarshaldj; ninenot
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The fieldmarshal won that honor in a photo finish over me.

On a theme more relevant to this thread, what on earth makes you think that LAMAR!!!! is a great senator, much less a great REPUBLICAN senator? Doesn't Tennessee owe an awful lot more to America than a squishball Howdy Doody lookalike with piano lessons dressed like a lumberjack wannabe?

204 posted on 02/16/2005 5:22:05 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: oceanview

Richardson too connected to the Clintons and scandal.

I disagree the Dems have the Black vote sewn up. There has been a major shift amonf Hispanics who vote on values and issues, and a small shift among Blacks.


205 posted on 02/16/2005 5:22:47 PM PST by PJBlogger (HILLARY 'S QUEST:: Supreme Leader of the World)
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To: ConservativeDude

Condi is a social and cultural Conservative. Where did you ever get the idea that she is not pro-life?


206 posted on 02/16/2005 5:23:59 PM PST by PJBlogger (HILLARY 'S QUEST:: Supreme Leader of the World)
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To: dead

Ford could be a strong candidate. TN was the home of "TN Ernie Ford" though he spent most of his time in CA. Gerald Ford defeated Ronald Reagan in the 1976 TN GOP primary but lost in the fall to the popular Jimmy Carter, who pledged to TN a "government as good, kind, and caring as the American people." They went all out for Al Gore in 1984, 1990, 1992 and 1996 but not 2000. Well, TN has bought some whoppers over the years.


207 posted on 02/16/2005 5:25:34 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: zbigreddogz
"Everything you said, with the exception of 'Didn't run against Gore in '86' was you blaming Lamar for things beyond his control, and saying someone isn't a good party man because he doesn't want to run for a office you want him to is stupid."

A Governor is ultimately to blame or credit with a party's fortunes or misfortunes during their tenure. Lamar! did next to nothing to improve our party's fortunes while in office and while a "supposedly" popular figure while out of office. He proceeded to do similarly mediocre jobs as head of UT-Knoxville and as Bush, Sr's Education Secretary and then to have the audacity to run for President on his same mediocre record. For you to say it is not his fault regarding TN's fortunes is plainly ignorant. It is a real testament to an individual politician to put their needs secondary to the party's, indeed, that is what separates politicians from statesmen. In 1984, a lot of people went begging the man to succeed our Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker, Jr. Preferring to remain a lame duck and instead allowing the nomination of a 3rd tier RINO State Senator, and hence the coronation of then-Congressman Albert Gore, Jr. in one of only two seats we lost in the Reagan landslide (the other being anti-semitic liberal RINO Sen. Chuck Percy of IL), was an abomination of the highest order. That's why Lamar! will only be a politician and will NEVER be a statesman.

208 posted on 02/16/2005 5:25:55 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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To: iceemonster

Yes, the incumbent party is usually the last one held, but that is by custom, not any requirement.


209 posted on 02/16/2005 5:26:24 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: zbigreddogz; fieldmarshaldj; GailA
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I won't speak for the fieldmarshal but I know I NEVER wanted to see either LAMAR!!!! or the Tennessee quisling Donald Sunsquish (whom I confess knowing from his Young Republican days of hostility to principle) run for ANY office in Tennessee. I guess I won't have to worry about Sunsquish any more. Will Victor Ashe try to take up the fallen sceptre of pseudo-Republicanism in Tennessee?

210 posted on 02/16/2005 5:28:24 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Bryant was too hesitant in his primary race against Alexander: he was thinking prematurely of "moderates" in the fall and could not therefore win the nomination. Remember Nixon's old adage (sometimes false it was too): run to the right in the primary and to the center in the general election.


211 posted on 02/16/2005 5:29:02 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Whatever. You're an unappeasable who would rather yell for perfection then take 2/3rds of what you want and try for more later.



212 posted on 02/16/2005 5:32:07 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Republicans need to pick their best possible candidate in the primary to take on Ford---in my opinion, that would be former Congressman Ed Bryant, who is also from Shelby County and should hold down Ford's margins in the Memphis area.

I would think the Republicans' strongest candidate would be the incumbent, Sen. Frist. Is Frist in political trouble back home?

213 posted on 02/16/2005 5:33:15 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: dead

why doesn't he just move to utah?


214 posted on 02/16/2005 5:34:34 PM PST by ken21
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Oops, never mind. Just read that Frist is retiring in 2006. What can I say, it's been a long week at work.


215 posted on 02/16/2005 5:36:35 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: mariabush

Both parents black or both alleged parents black?


216 posted on 02/16/2005 5:36:46 PM PST by Cedric
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To: CFC__VRWC

"Is Frist in political trouble back home?"



No, but he limited himself to two terms back in 1994, and he recently said that he's not seeking reelection. Frist will almost certainly run for President in 2008.


217 posted on 02/16/2005 5:37:06 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: BlackElk
"I won't speak for the fieldmarshal but I know I NEVER wanted to see either LAMAR!!!! or the Tennessee quisling Donald Sunsquish (whom I confess knowing from his Young Republican days of hostility to principle) run for ANY office in Tennessee."

Thank heavens they kept Scumquist hidden from view in '00 and didn't try to get him into the Senate race 2 years later. Scumquist at least makes Lamar! look respectable, kind of in the way Babs Boxer makes Dianne Feinstein look remotely sane.

"Will Victor Ashe try to take up the fallen sceptre of pseudo-Republicanism in Tennessee?"

Dubya sent ole Vic to Poland as our august Ambassador. Alas, after a few years of him, they might support the 'Rats in '08. I myself would've sent Vic to Mongolia, maybe our friend Z could serve as his charge d'affaires in beautiful downtown Ulan Bataar ? ;-)

218 posted on 02/16/2005 5:44:30 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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To: Cedric
The whole family is BLACK. Harold Sr.'s parents were dark and produced light skinned children. There has never been a rumor that N.J. or his wife were ever unfaithful to each other if that is what you are referring to.
219 posted on 02/16/2005 5:45:08 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Theodore R.

Bryant did as well as he could've in the primary. He was massively outspent and didn't have all the positive press coverage.


220 posted on 02/16/2005 5:45:30 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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