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S.D. man could have aggressive HIV strain
sandiego.com ^ | February 15, 2005 | Cheryl Clark

Posted on 02/15/2005 4:28:22 PM PST by tbird5

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To: speed_addiction
What is really interesting is that the guy in NY claims he has had unprotected sex with hundreds of men in the last 2 weeks. If one thinks about the geometric propagation of this strain there is going to be a huge dying off in the near future. This better be an awakening for the Gay community or the percentage of them in society will go down dramatically. Note this is a totally preventable disease. Abstinence is the answer.
101 posted on 02/16/2005 5:46:45 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: onyx

No doubt!


102 posted on 02/16/2005 8:45:33 AM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: television is just wrong

Wow, yes! It must have been a scary time for surgeons, not wanting to give tainted blood to their patients. So glad for you!


103 posted on 02/16/2005 9:35:41 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Selkie

I'm not buying your logic. There is an agenda and it is being pushed off as science. BARF!


104 posted on 02/16/2005 10:33:06 AM PST by taxesareforever
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To: N3WBI3

I had multiple windows open and was replying to several trheads. The execution comment was meant for another thread, not this one. My error.


105 posted on 02/16/2005 11:20:57 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: taxesareforever

I'm not buying your logic. There is an agenda and it is being pushed off as science. BARF!
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No its not my logic, I stated verified FACTS.

Why don't you contribute useful information instead of casting aspersions upon people.


106 posted on 02/16/2005 6:55:22 PM PST by Selkie (You can argue 'til you're blue in the face, but I'll always be right.)
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To: Mockingbird For Short

AIDS is not a "gay disease" -- it's a "behavioral disease". It compromises the immune system without discrimination. It doesn't care whether you're a male or female. It doesn't care about the color of your skin.


107 posted on 02/16/2005 7:04:45 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Selkie

No its not my logic, I stated verified FACTS.

Verified facts? From whom? The AIDS community? Who am I casting aspersions on? I claim their is a conspiracy to demand more money for the AIDS situation thru use of this so-called new strain. How is that casting aspersions? Sounds more to me like you feel your boat being tipped and you don't want water coming in. And that water just could be the truth.


108 posted on 02/16/2005 8:46:50 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: taxesareforever

I claim their is a conspiracy to demand more money for the AIDS situation thru use of this so-called new strain. How is that casting aspersions? Sounds more to me like you feel your boat being tipped and you don't want water coming in. And that water just could be the truth.
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Conspiracy ? Wow what paranoia.
Talk about not dealing in facts.
End of discussion.

Good day.


109 posted on 02/16/2005 8:54:38 PM PST by Selkie (You can argue 'til you're blue in the face, but I'll always be right.)
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To: Selkie

Well I never saw any facts from you. Just rhetoric.

By the way, your byline says it all.

Sayonara Mr.Right


110 posted on 02/16/2005 10:16:09 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Yaelle
And there are great conservative gays who ALSO hate the gay agenda.

Aye, a valid point that flies right over the heads of some of the more insular people here. There are many gay conservatives, though they do lean strongly liberal as a group. Living in the San Francisco Bay Area, you meet all types. I know gay men who are against gay marriage, even gay adoption of children, and who generally don't see why such issues are even a public topic of discussion. Not all of them are the flaming cretins you see in the media.

Bush got more of the gay vote than the black vote. That says something, though I'm not sure what.

111 posted on 02/16/2005 10:30:05 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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Yaelle
And there are great conservative gays who ALSO hate the gay agenda.
Aye, a valid point that flies right over the heads of some of the more insular people here. There are many gay conservatives, though they do lean strongly liberal as a group. Living in the San Francisco Bay Area, you meet all types. I know gay men who are against gay marriage, even gay adoption of children, and who generally don't see why such issues are even a public topic of discussion. Not all of them are the flaming cretins you see in the media.

Bush got more of the gay vote than the black vote. That says something, though I'm not sure what.
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That is surprisingly quite true.


112 posted on 02/16/2005 11:53:26 PM PST by Selkie (You can argue 'til you're blue in the face, but I'll always be right.)
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To: Bush2000

But it does care if you practice sodomy with lots and lots of people, or if you don't. AIDS does care if you practice anal sex a lot and are promiscuous. It also cares if you're monogamously married to the same (opposite sex) person.

All this crap about AIDS not being a "gay" disease is just that - crap. Until non-homosexuals start practicing the same level of promiscuity *and* anal sex as homosexuals, it will be a "gay" disease.

And, of course, a prostitutes' and drug users' disease. But I repeat myself.


113 posted on 02/16/2005 11:58:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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But it does care if you practice sodomy with lots and lots of people, or if you don't. AIDS does care if you practice anal sex a lot and are promiscuous. It also cares if you're monogamously married to the same (opposite sex) person.

Like I said, it's a "behavioral disease".

All this crap about AIDS not being a "gay" disease is just that - crap. Until non-homosexuals start practicing the same level of promiscuity *and* anal sex as homosexuals, it will be a "gay" disease.

I have no doubt that gays are very promiscuous; however, there are certainly lots of promiscuous heterosexuals, as the figures above indicate. More troubling are the statistics relating to users of injected drugs. What this argues for is not specific condemnation of homosexuality (although I won't pretend to understand homosexuality or the people who practice it) but, rather condemnation of promiscuity and dangerous practices (ie. IV drug abuse, sharing needles, etc). After all, many heterosexuals have contracted the disease.

I cannot help but feel compassion for anyone suffering from this horrible disease. I'm not trying to excuse or wave away the behaviors which brought this disease into existence. But for many straight people, AIDS is a reality that they neither wanted nor deserved. Husbands. Wives. Children. And I'm not going to turn my back on them simply because other people want to put labels on viruses.
114 posted on 02/17/2005 10:28:38 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000

The wild promiscuity which is the hallmark of the "gay" life cannot compare to the vast majority of heterosexuals. Can't be compared. It's a different universe.

I say, you play, you pay.

I am sorry for people who suffer from AIDS due to their own actions, but I'm way sorrier for those who suffer from AIDS due to someone else's actions - for instance, hemophiliacs who got it from transfusions.

Just as I'm sorry for people who get lung cancer from smoking. But they did it to themselves, as most AIDS patients have also done it to themselves.

And there is no reason why taxpayers should foot the bill. Maybe if AIDS patients had to pay their own medical expenses (as mrs lj and I have to do) they would be more cautious about their "gay" lifestyle.


115 posted on 02/17/2005 3:18:52 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Well...I have some sympathy for them.

It's a horrible way to die. I've watched a few people die from it.

Yes, it's totally preventable...and in a weird sort of way..that makes me have more sorrow for those that have HIV/AIDS.

FWIW-

116 posted on 02/17/2005 3:23:47 PM PST by Osage Orange ("Political interest can never be separated in the long run from moral right" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tbird5

If we have one case in New York, and another in San Diego, odds are that it's already propagated through every gay community in the country


117 posted on 02/17/2005 3:30:51 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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