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California May Require Everyone to Have Health Insurance
North County Times ^ | Feb. 8, 2005 | Gig Conaughton

Posted on 02/10/2005 7:46:33 AM PST by MedNole

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To: Carry_Okie
When they "can't afford it" the State will then be "forced" to fund the coverage.

You no doubt already know this, but the State is now subsidizing car insurance for low-income drivers. Gee, I wonder where the State gets "its" money?

41 posted on 02/10/2005 8:17:14 AM PST by .38sw
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To: Maceman

That's all I could think of when I saw the headline. How does a state enforce this? Deport you to Arizona? Shoot you in the head?

Pinz


42 posted on 02/10/2005 8:17:16 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: From many - one.

I am still trying to figure out how my low-life sister-in-law who makes $9.00 an hour and pays no taxes gets a refund ( bigger than mine ) on something she didn't pay into.

She also has state welfare insurance or whatever you call it so I ( you/we ) pay that so she can have kids and stay drunk.


43 posted on 02/10/2005 8:18:07 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Carry_Okie
Further, it also subsidizes the middleman, in this case, the insurance companies.

Exactly. I smell Blue Cross/Blue Shield hoping to become government contractors. I also smell campaign contributions to State Assemblymen Joe Nation, D-Marin, and Dr. Keith Richman, R-Chatsworth, from health insurance companies.

44 posted on 02/10/2005 8:18:32 AM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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To: MedNole
Yep - the point is to prevent the taxpayers from having to subsidize the uninsured. Those can't or won't get medical insurance should barred from getting any but emergency care. Even then they will have to post a bond to ensure monthly payments are made for it. I don't care if they're in hock for the rest of their lives. If they pay only a small fraction of what they owe, the taxpayers won't be on the hook for the entire tab and that will do more than anything to help bring spiraling health costs under control.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

45 posted on 02/10/2005 8:18:45 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Enterprise

LOL I'd hate to see the uninsured maternity patients! ;-)

Pinz


46 posted on 02/10/2005 8:19:05 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Antonello

I say deport them to Detroit....


47 posted on 02/10/2005 8:19:42 AM PST by Osage Orange ("Political interest can never be separated in the long run from moral right" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ZGuy

Forget billing Mexico. Take it out of the $600 milllion that we are going to give Mexico this year.

However, when Bush gives Mexico the totalization agreement on social security , then more than half of Mexico will be on medicare. Guess who gets to pay for that monstrosity?


48 posted on 02/10/2005 8:20:22 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Maceman
What is the punishment for not having insurance under this law?

They shoot you ? Talk about ironic if true.

49 posted on 02/10/2005 8:20:36 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: MedNole
I love this idea.

You are crazy. Insurance is socialism. Mandatory insurance is mandatory socialism.

Insurance is where everyone pays into a pool and benefits are paid out according to "need". It is the very embodiment of Karl Marx.

Notice the authors of this insanity MADE NO MENTION OF TORT REFORM.

50 posted on 02/10/2005 8:21:26 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Carry_Okie

What happens right now if an uninsured kid splatters himself on a motorcycle????
He STILL gets treatment, but if he had insurance, at least YOU wouldn't have to pay for it.


51 posted on 02/10/2005 8:21:51 AM PST by MedNole
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To: elbucko
Yep, and we wonder why giant corporations support socialism.
52 posted on 02/10/2005 8:22:49 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: MedNole

that's the only way health care is going to survive.

but the dems will want to exclude from responsibility their tenants on the democrat plantation.

the dems will say that po' illegals can't afford to pay.

and then they'll send the tv cameras over to south central los angeles for some more whining.


53 posted on 02/10/2005 8:23:15 AM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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To: MedNole
"I don't follow you. The policies they are talking about are minimal indemnity policies that have $5,000 deductibles. They only cover catastrophic expenses. This PREVENTS the uninsured from being parasites on the health care system. Again, just how are you going to FORCE these people to buy health insurance? they only people who will be FORCED anything are the people who have insurance. They will be FORCED to pay higher premiums, while the poor and unemployed will get their card to carry around for basicly free. SAME SYSTEM AS CANADA.
54 posted on 02/10/2005 8:23:57 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: MedNole
He STILL gets treatment, but if he had insurance, at least YOU wouldn't have to pay for it.

Only emergency treatment. Under your preference YOU would still be paying, but paying for more.

55 posted on 02/10/2005 8:23:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: MedNole
?California May Require Everyone to Have.....No Fault.... Health Insurance?

/figures

56 posted on 02/10/2005 8:24:42 AM PST by maestro
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To: staytrue

So, should we just refuse all emergency treatment to people that can't afford it? Should we refuse to treat uninsured people in car accidents? Who are having an acute MI? Uninsured kids with leukemia? Uninsured on dialysis?
People without insurance are leeches on all of us. If we require them to a cheap indemnity plan (with a $5,000/year deductible), then it will save ALL of us money.


57 posted on 02/10/2005 8:24:44 AM PST by MedNole
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To: MedNole

WOW... I cannot believe the number of so-called Conservatives on this website who are excited about legislation that puts more Government into their lives.

Who will pay the premiums for the people who can't afford to pay for health insurance after this passes? Well, you can rest assured that the next piece of legislation that passes after this one will be one that provides insurance to the "working poor", "welfare class", "unemployed", and "other disadvantaged groups". It's going to cost the taxpayers.

Who will enforce this law? Count on a new Department of Medical Insurance, staffed by hundreds of political cronies of the legislators - making 6-figure salaries. It's going to cost the taxpayers.

What's the remedy if someone doesn't have insurance? Count on the formation of a Committee on Determining Enforcement Mechanisms. It's going to cost the taxpayers.

Sorry, this legislation is not for me... keep the Government away from the health industry.



58 posted on 02/10/2005 8:24:50 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: MedNole
And tell me again just how people who can't afford health insurance now are going to be able to afford it after they pass a law making it mandantory? And tell me again how you are for freedom and non-government interference? The fact of the matter is, what has caused health cost to reached the level they are now is insurance.

Insurance itself is the big cost raiser and always has been. Because of insurance, Docs started charging more because the insurance companies could pay more than individuals, then insurance companies raised their rates to cover the costs of the treatments docs were charging, the docs charged more, then insurnace raised again, and on and on. Now, we here it is the fault of people who have to weight between buying food and paying rent and having health insurance. This is BS.

Also, forcing people to have insurance, car or health, is definately big brotherish and, IMO, is unconstitutional.

If this goes into affect, what will the penalty be for not having health insurance? Are they going to stop people on the street and demand an insurance card?

59 posted on 02/10/2005 8:26:16 AM PST by calex59
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To: From many - one.

The article said "Healthcare costs," not insurance coverage.


60 posted on 02/10/2005 8:26:44 AM PST by Laur
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