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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Pantera
- Are new species actually created from old species? - Has there ever been any evidence of evolution events where new species became sexually incompatible

If you had read this thread, you might have noticed post #462 which has an interesting link to a site on mammal hybrids.

1,901 posted on 02/11/2005 12:29:50 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic
You are 100% right. It equally wrong when when evolutionary evangelist take it the opposite direction. I mean, everyone should stick to what is known and work to determine what is unknown. Instead it becomes a battle of "I'm right, your wrong". I have brought up a number of questions and each time I am flamed for asking questions.

I think there is a ton of evidence that evolution is on the right track. It serves no one when radical evolution supporters make claims that can not be backed up at this time either.

1,902 posted on 02/11/2005 12:30:05 PM PST by Pantera
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To: Pantera
The flames were due to your proposition.

I know you do not know the answer, but this is the question I am trying to raise.

And here is another flame. It's a scientific convention to label your quotes properly.

"Duh... the sun... ", isn't that the firery red ball and the center of the universe. "The sun is hot... therefore life started up and stuff... anyway that explains it all..."

In threads it's usual to cite the last post you rely on. So I don't need to label your statement from your last post.
Your last example shows you cited something that I never have written. Please label your source.
1,903 posted on 02/11/2005 12:33:36 PM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: Pantera

whom does it serve to ignore specific answers to your questions?

seagulls.
arctic.
ring species.

well?


1,904 posted on 02/11/2005 12:33:58 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: MHalblaub
He missed to show that a flagellum is not able to improve any more.

Where do you get these ideas from? That was not his goal and has nothing to do with IC. It's irreducible complexity, not unimprovable.

1,905 posted on 02/11/2005 12:35:15 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: King Prout

Ever seen "Airplane"?


1,906 posted on 02/11/2005 12:36:37 PM PST by Pantera
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To: shubi
NO IT DOESN'T

YES IT DOES. I haven't had this much fun since second grade recess.

1,907 posted on 02/11/2005 12:42:00 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Pantera

not in its entirety, no.


1,908 posted on 02/11/2005 12:46:49 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Tribune7
But the creationist argument has as much weight as yours...

I do not believe it does. What empirical evidence supports creationism? What predictions does creationism make about biology? How would we test any predictions made by creationism? Does creationism have an explanation for the question of "what happens when you cross a leopard with a lion?"


1,909 posted on 02/11/2005 12:47:37 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: King Prout
unless and until this is acheived, attempting to teach evolution in the public schools is at best pointless, and at worst highly counterproductive.

A very good point.

1,910 posted on 02/11/2005 12:48:04 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: King Prout

that "firery red ball" thing was just a joke from the movie. I'm looking to read up on the references now. I am truly interested in the subject not the ridiculous banter that is going on here.


1,911 posted on 02/11/2005 12:49:27 PM PST by Pantera
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To: Liberal Classic
Lions and Tigers and Darwin, oh my!


1,912 posted on 02/11/2005 12:56:51 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
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To: Liberal Classic
Hey, I don't have to be convinced that evolution provides accurate answers to much about nature -- just not as many as its proponents claim, and, especially, not to the point where it can't be questioned.

So while you can cross a horse and a zebra, or a tiger and a lion, that's not the case with a zebra and a lion. Somewhere there is a barrier. Is it breechable by natural means? I won't reject the idea out of hand but there is no evidence for it.

1,913 posted on 02/11/2005 12:59:31 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Pantera

all right, I accept your word.

consider the basic effects of the sun on a revolving body in an elliptical orbit having an atmosphere and large bodies of water-based liquid, in terms of the organizational influence it definitely has: high-intensity irradiation modified by two distinct periods and the lattitude-generated Coriolis effect.

think about it.


1,914 posted on 02/11/2005 1:05:58 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Tribune7

and a sincere one. thank you.


1,915 posted on 02/11/2005 1:06:29 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Liberal Classic
What predictions does creationism make about biology? How would we test any predictions made by creationism

what, you mean this?

one of my personal favorites.

1,916 posted on 02/11/2005 1:12:09 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Tribune7
Hey, I don't have to be convinced that evolution provides accurate answers to much about nature -- just not as many as its proponents claim, and, especially, not to the point where it can't be questioned.

Theories, including evolution, were meant to be questioned. Is creationism?

1,917 posted on 02/11/2005 1:13:22 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic
Is creationism?

Do mean the existence of God or a particular intpretation of Genesis?

1,918 posted on 02/11/2005 1:15:46 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: King Prout

I didn't realize I was being provocative. Shame on me.


1,919 posted on 02/11/2005 1:16:09 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Pantera

Your questions may seem original to you, but they are just the same old creationist nonsense to us.


1,920 posted on 02/11/2005 1:24:36 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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