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Verdict reached-Paul Shanley Sex Abuse - GUILTY
Court TV ^ | Feb 7, 2005 | Court TV

Posted on 02/07/2005 1:21:00 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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Must it be proved "beyond a reasonable doubt" WRT this type of case?

That is the standard for a criminal conviction. In civil cases, the standard is "preponderance of the evidence".

Most of the cases in this scandal have been civil (or settled out of court). Many of the potential criminal cases could not be brought because of the statute of limitations. This one was an exception to that because they decided the clock stopped when Shanley moved out of the state (an absurd conclusion, albeit with a good result!).

61 posted on 02/07/2005 5:43:05 PM PST by cynwoody
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I understand. Thank you.


62 posted on 02/07/2005 6:18:17 PM PST by This Just In (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.)
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< I would hope they did know the other background, because the alternative is that they would convict a guy "in the absence of a case". He's clearly guilty as hell, but the state didn't prove it in court beyond a reasonable doubt. >

Not beyond a resonable doubt to who? You? A dozen citizens disagree with you. Did you listen to the young man testify? Good Lord, I didn't have a dog in this hunt and I was crying. He was extremely credible. What makes you think that you can't convict someone if you believe the victim is telling the truth?


63 posted on 02/07/2005 6:27:09 PM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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but the state didn't prove it in court beyond a reasonable doubt.

If that was the case, the jury would've come back with a verdict of not guilty. But they didn't--the jury came back with a verdict of guilty on all counts.

64 posted on 02/07/2005 6:45:52 PM PST by Catspaw
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65 posted on 02/07/2005 7:21:21 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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What makes you think that you can't convict someone if you believe the victim is telling the truth?

because some people are congenital liars.

I am afraid that I once ran up against one of these. They can be so convincing that I was nearly prosecuted for a crime I had no knowledge of. It changed my entire perspective of law and justice. It also changed my life.

Since that time, over twenty years ago, I have never trusted anyone outright. I do not take their words and emotions as truth anymore. Except for those who have earned my trust.

There was a time that I was disappointed by people but I believed in the true goodness of humans.

Now I am no longer surprised by some of the loathsome things they are inclined to do to anyone for any reason, and usually for no reason at all.

It seriously changes ones perspective when viewing a trial. This is why I detest the emphasis on circumstantial evidence. I need hard evidence and not circumstantial or witness testimony.

Drives them (lawyers)nuts when I am picked for jury duty.:-)

66 posted on 02/07/2005 9:09:09 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks for the ping!


67 posted on 02/07/2005 9:28:11 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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BTT!!!!!!


68 posted on 02/08/2005 6:28:01 AM PST by E.G.C.
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!


69 posted on 02/08/2005 8:41:39 AM PST by cubreporter
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