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Why Does Windows Still Suck? Why do PC users put up with so many viruses and worms?...
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/4/5 | Mark Morford

Posted on 02/04/2005 7:54:13 AM PST by SmithL

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To: cinives

Sorry I was assuming the OS was pre installed but even so it only takes 14-15 minutes to do the base install on XP. This does not include configuring networks and other preferences but but even with I am pretty quick with it.

Given I do this every day.


261 posted on 02/05/2005 7:37:27 AM PST by Syntyr
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To: SmithL

Well that's what everyone else uses, and so must I. And if I don't, I'm gay.


262 posted on 02/05/2005 7:43:03 AM PST by Musket
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To: 1L
5. Download and run CCache

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OK, I have looked this up and still don't exactly understand this program.

Can ANYONE explain what this program does in layman terms.

263 posted on 02/05/2005 8:14:29 AM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: Musket
The Morfordite's gaity has nothing to do with his computer's operating system.
264 posted on 02/05/2005 8:44:00 AM PST by SmithL (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?)
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To: drt1
.... their amazing ability to immunize themselves from the repercussions of defective software gives them a pass that no other manufacturer or service provider is afforded.

I still am amazed at how long MS has been able to get away with this.

Many here who say they don't have these problems are much more technically astute than the majority of PC uers. It's easy to say "well I have a good firewall and a good antivirus program and everybody else should as well". Well, a lot of people are used to buying something and having it run right out of the box. They aren't used to having to go out and either buy or find additional items to protect themselves and their personal information.

They want to get online, check their email, look at pictures of the grandkids, look at how their stocks are doing (or something similar), and maybe play a game or two. They don't want to have to think about the fact that they are going to have to download patches for 13 additional vulnerabilities (which everybody should do next week when MS releases them).
265 posted on 02/05/2005 2:02:02 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
It Is amazing and MS provides no real assistance. It is totally buyer beware and, after buying 'Complete', 'Ready to run' system the user is forced to go any number of other places to obtain the necessary hardware nd software barriers to penetration. At the minimum, MS has missed out on the very large market for such products. Symantec and others have made veritable fortunes from these very lucrative 'crumbs' MS ignores.

My own system consist of a fully protected network supporting five computers so I've been through it and it is a rel pain not to mention no little expense and effort to keep it secure.

266 posted on 02/05/2005 2:10:24 PM PST by drt1
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To: drt1
My own system consist of a fully protected network supporting five computers so I've been through it and it is a rel pain not to mention no little expense and effort to keep it secure.

That's just it. The average user has no idea how to do all of that. Most of us who say it's easy have been dealing with this type of stuff one way or another for years. I'm sure you didn't get a little 5-minute readme file on how to create your setup and how to keep it secure. You probably did a lot of research.

Your average Windows user on the other hand, doesn't care or even know about all of that. They just want to know why half an hour after getting the latest version of Windows installed or getting the new PC and getting out on the internet, the system is crawling, they keep getting tons of popups, and then a crash or two.

They never stop to think that they should get their money back and try something else. They go in, talk to a salesman, plop down even more money for Norton/Symantec or whatever, and go back home, install it, and find that it's too late at that point. They are already out a helluva lot of money, and are going nowhere fast. Then comes the familiar "well go ahead and reinstall", and they accept it as "normal". Simply amazing.
267 posted on 02/05/2005 6:02:09 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: TommyDale
And why do these 4% not realize that they are missing out on so many software programs that are available only for the PC?

Like Photoshop and Microsoft Office? Nope, available for both. How about Final Cut Pro? Sorry, Mac-only.

The times where there's a required app that's a pltaform killer are rare. Most commercial applications have Mac equivalents, especially if you're talking generic home and business use. But for those other instances, Virtual PC is able to run most Windows applications within a Mac.

268 posted on 02/07/2005 8:15:35 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

You still can't justify the huge priced difference in the hardware platform, plus the higher price for software, plus the price for Virtual PC. The real world is dominated by the PC and it will continue to be so.


269 posted on 02/07/2005 8:18:44 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: LowOiL

It cleans up temporary internet and similar files that IE leaves behind, which can bog down your system and goof up (not irreperable) your hard drive. They make your anti-virus software run for so long, you need an update for it before its done!

These files are difficult, if not impossible, to delete by hand. I'm not really sure why, but I did a thorough search on my desktop based on the file scans from my AV software, but was unable to find them manually.


270 posted on 02/07/2005 8:21:53 AM PST by 1L
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To: TommyDale
You still can't justify the huge priced difference in the hardware platform, plus the higher price for software, plus the price for Virtual PC.

First, the hardware isn't more expensive anymore if you look at all features rather than just megahertz. Second, the software costs about the same. Third, you'll probably save more in maintenance than the $130 for Virtual PC (that is if you didn't buy MS Office Pro, which comes with it). Add to that the generally higher user productivity on a Mac, and your costs go way down.

271 posted on 02/07/2005 8:41:06 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Those of us who know how to properly maintain a PC find that the cost to do so is negligible. As for productivity, I don't buy it. At one time the Mac was better for certain applications, buth those days are long gone. 96% of the market agrees with me.

Apple screwed up when they held their "design" close to the vest, and wouldn't let competitors make clones. They lost out initially on price, now they have lost the market almost entirely. And their attitude about repairs and warranties is worse than Microsoft. Just ask the many IPOD users who had problems with batteries.


272 posted on 02/07/2005 9:54:09 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: SmithL; All

directions to connect to SCB without their crappy software with Windows XP

http://disk919.com/bb/archived_learnins/install_sbc_yahoo_dsl_without_cd/


273 posted on 02/07/2005 9:56:13 AM PST by boxerblues
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To: TommyDale
Those of us who know how to properly maintain a PC find that the cost to do so is negligible.

Finding people like you is a cost to companies.

At one time the Mac was better for certain applications, buth those days are long gone.

It's not about certain applications, but a superior user interface that's focused on you getting work done with a minimum of fiddling around with the OS.

96% of the market agrees with me.

Microsoft's marketshare is a freak of nature, caused by IBM licensing MS-DOS and using its power to push IBM PCs throughout the market. Microsoft then made Windows 3.1 compatible with MS-DOS to allow an easy upgrade path for people. Then in 1990 Gates decided to make Windows NT follow DOS-compatible Windows 3.1's API instead of using something more modern and unencumbered by backwards compatibility.

The above is the reason for both Microsoft's marketshare and Windows' inferiority. Most != best.

And their attitude about repairs and warranties is worse than Microsoft.

Microsoft makes computers?

274 posted on 02/07/2005 10:56:19 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

The argument is that they have an attitude, but Apple has the same, if not worse, arrogant attitude.


275 posted on 02/07/2005 11:12:08 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale
The argument is that they have an attitude, but Apple has the same, if not worse, arrogant attitude.

True, but I don't mind arrogance so much when they actually have excellent products. Arrogance, but for a reason -- they're better.

Of course, that's not to excuse some of Apple's stupid corporate moves.

276 posted on 02/07/2005 12:43:24 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: chronic_loser

I found out yesterday the reason my mic didn't work was 'causa I had it on mute.


277 posted on 02/16/2005 1:13:06 PM PST by M1-A2 ("My beautiful 375 pound sister was a runway model...at the airport.")
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To: Restore
Restore wrote:
Do yourself a HUGH favor and check out the new $499 Macs. You can still use your old keyboard, mouse, display and printer. All that you lose is the Advil.

As your former flight student, I wholeheartedly agree!

At 499, the new mac is a bargain, and it does circles around typical PCs.

I have macs, PCs, a SUN, and even a DEC ALPHA (though these days the Alpha is just a coffee table).

Of all the computers I have, I use the macs for my daily work. they never EVER crash, work flawlessly, and exhibit none of the issue I find with the Windoze platform. For instance, I recently lost copious amounts on data on my XP machine, and anded up being forced to reformat and reinstall. I've never been faced with that on a MAC.

Andy

278 posted on 03/22/2005 7:04:31 PM PST by CivilLiberty
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To: SmithL

If 90% of the PCs were MAC, or Linux, 90% of the viruses would be directed toward them.


279 posted on 03/22/2005 7:08:22 PM PST by FLCowboy, (Hillary is changing her colors. She's a chameleon. No, she's a liberal.)
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To: TruBluKentuckian
AVG is terrific! I tried Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro and even one called Dr. Solomon. AVG is the only one that has been completely satisfactory. I also bought the Personal Firewall add-on.
280 posted on 03/22/2005 7:16:20 PM PST by nygoose
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